Sigh. I don't know if it's the playcalling. I don't know if it's his decision making. But he's a disaster. I'm sure the District will have more on this.
#2 big rob said . . .Does Lovie have walnuts, even one walnut? When is he going to be a man and sit Grossman down? Take a lesson from Parcells; be a man; do what is right for the team. Grossman is the major reason we are going nowhere, the other is Brian Ulacher being Tom Brady's Bitch. This loss was unacceptable. Lovie; be a man and send Grossman to the sidelines to watch anyone do better than him, 'Bledsoe' him.
November 27, 2006
#3 Tristan said . . .Just like the Miami game we had every chance in the world to win this one. AND the one time Rex gets some ass behind the ball her overthrows Davis..... Booo.... Don't jump off the Rex wagon just yet.......
November 27, 2006
#4 Fred said . . .First of all, it is completely unfair of you to criticize Urlacher. He missed one embarassing tackle and will never be any quarterback's "bitch". He is the core of a defense that played extremely well today and will continue to dominate.
Now, regarding Grossman. He has been terrible in a few games this year, but he has also had MVP caliber performances. We get to go back to Soldier Field, we'll clinch the division within the next couple games (even if it takes all defense), Grossman will finally get into a rhythm, and we'll enter the playoffs poised to make a run. Griese is a solid backup, but Grossman is the only QB we have who can possibly put up enough points to beat a team like the Chargers or the Colts in the Super Bowl.
Trust me Grossman's performance today was pathetic, but he has very little game experience and will probably get more consistent. There is a reason Lovie was coach of the year and I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt right now.
November 27, 2006
#5 paytonrules said . . .Ron Turner does not give a fuck about this BEARS team, only about his future.
Benson runs for twelve the hard way and disappears?
What are you doing?November 27, 2006
#6 Pissed off said . . .#4 - look at Benson's blocking. It's atrocious, and given that if you look funny at Grossman he throws off his back foot you can't leave Benson in there. Besides Benson is getting 3.4 YPC before this game - he ran very well today but it's for the first time.
#3 and #2 the Rex Bandwagon blew a tire, then caught fire, then rolled down a cliff. He's innacurate, stupid, and basically bad. He is incapable of having three "Good Rex" games in a row in the playoffs, and therefore can't be your playoff starter. Imagine if the Bears have an opening game against the Panthers. Then Julius Peppers hits him. Once Grossman gets done shitting himself in the huddle he'll start throwing it to the Panthers as much as humanly possible.
Basically the Bears are screwed. Griese is a backup, a caretaker, and the other two QBs on the roster are bad. After this season the defense will start to get worse and worse as age and defections take their toll, the O-Line is older than dust, and Thomas Jones will be gone. This is the Bears best shot at a Super Bowl. They have the best team in football in every phase of the game, except for the most important position on the football field where they have an erratic, skittish, happy feet lock-on-your-recievers-then-throw-behind-them QB.
They can't win the Super Bowl this year as presently constructed. Boy I hope I'm wrong.
November 27, 2006
#7 Brent Pilgram said . . .I agree with most everthing paytonrules has said, We think so much alike its scary. I wonder to myself why I take so much stock in the games, I love the Bears so much, far more than the players or coaches do for sure, and want to see them win so badly. Sadly, I like to watch the games alone, not with friends, family or anyone, only maybe with a fellow Bears fan. It is a sickness. Why do I care so much? Why does it bother more this season when they lose than it did last year? The Bears no doubt will be in the playoffs and can generally beat teams they are supposed to, but I just dont think, from the bottom of my heart, that they can beat a San Diego, Indy, New England, even Dallas. If you are going to get to and win the Super Bowl you have to believe and feel like you can beat any team in the league and they clearly cant.
The only thing I will disagree with that paytonrules has said is that I am not a Rex hater. I love the guy, he has his struggles but can be damn good at times. If you think Greise or god forbid Orton is the answer, you are dead wrong. This team will go the way of Rex! Granted we will win games no matter how bad he plays at times because of the defense but we will not win playoff games with performances like against Arizona or Miami. We just wont, if Rex isnt on his game every playoff game we will be out the first time he has a bad game. We have no other option but Rex and I hope he comes thru more consistently. Lets also not forget that we could have won tonight had we went for it on 4th down. That is the worst decision I have seen made this year, by far, given the circumstance. We could have gone for it, got a first down or touchdown and been tied. Had we not converted we still would have given them them worse field position than they got after the kickoff!! For god's sake why did they kick the field goal, they still needed a touchdown anyway. Someone must have some serious logic cuz I dont understand it one bit!!
November 27, 2006
#8 jonathan said . . .Right on Tristan and PO'd. I hate citing the cliche but Rex does have a limited amout of starts under his belt. What's the point changing QB's now? Home field advan. is practically a wrap. Might as well let Rex try and work his way back to form in the next 5 games. He could be great, At best Griese could be average, and that won't cut it for a Superbowl victory.
November 27, 2006
#9 JHov said . . .I'm with PO'd. You wonder why we've had a fucking revolving door at QB the past umpteen years? It's because of bandwagon fans that don't understand what's best for the team.
We need to stick with Rex now. Undoubtedly he needs to improve (and so does his pass protection from the O-line), but right now he's the best shot we have. And when I think about some of the great throws he _did_ make this game, he's still miles ahead of any QB we've had in a long time.
A lot of good quarterbacks take a season or two to settle into a system. Please, let's have patience and stop the revolving door.
November 27, 2006
#10 G-Train said . . .I wanna like Rex, I really do. He has the charm, the marketability, and arm strength....but.....
HE'S the reason why the Bears-O have looked so bad. Tonight, it was HIS 3 turnovers that cost the game (a dropped snap and 2 pics into single coverage).
TJ isn't a turnover problem. The recievers aren't turnover problems. The O-Line isn't a turnover problem. It's Grossman, himself, who causes all my heart ache, stress, and completely unncessary screaming at my television when he unncessarily turns the ball over. And if it doesn't get fixed, the Bears are in trouble--come playoffs.
If Griese played, we have a Ravens type team who it's run, run run, and then play-action to a set of very good receivers.
We get outta of Rex's pattern of pass, pass, pass, pic.
The Offensive can move the ball with Griese. And Rex, by himself, is an incredible liability to the team's success in the playoffs.
We shoulda won this game tonight. Damn!
November 27, 2006
#11 Ted said . . .OK I agree that Rex played bad but I think the play calling stinks. If you have just under two min and you know that Rex's big problem is going for it all at once why not call a Screen on first down? The real prolbem is that Turner is afraid to make gutsy calls at the end of games.
November 27, 2006
#12 joe mama said . . .Face it, Bears fans... Rex is a hopelessly immature adolescent who keeps wrecking the family car because he wants to show off, and Lovie Smith confuses stubbornness with resolve, and digs his heels in rather than admit his mistake(s). Sticking with this sad excuse for a QB would be the only option for most NFL teams, but the Bears (thanks to Jerry) have a real live confident, capable professional QB ready and waiting on the sidelines.... and Lovie won't put him in because that would make his previous protestations on Rex's behalf look inconsistent. Sigh... and to waste this defense ...
November 27, 2006
#13 Berry Happy said . . .oh bitch, bitch, bitch. i think people should just settle down. the bears lost by 4 on the road against the patriots. they are 9-2 and in control of home field in the nfc. if somebody would have told me this in the beginning of the season, i know i would have taken it. rex is inconsistent, but he has the most talent of any bears qb in a long time. it's not like joe montana is on the bench, it's brian griese. there's a reason griese isn't a starter anywhere, it's because he's not that good and nobody wanted him. everyone should just relax and watch the bears wrap up the division and home field in the next few weeks. i don't know if any of you remember, but this team only won 5 games 2 years ago. chill out everyone and have some fun. with their young core of players the bears are poised to spend several years amongst the nfl's elite teams.
p.s. i think lives and girlfriends might be a good idea for some of you too.
November 27, 2006
#14 Jerry said . . .I think Rex is decent. Sure, he's no super QB, but he's really been expected to lead a team to a Bowl with only a single season's number of starts under his belt, and I applaud him for that.
As much as I would like to yell and moan and say, "put the backup in," I think that would only make matters worse right now. The O-Line crumples like the front end of my car hitting a cement wall; no wonder Rex is always throwing off his back foot and being pushed into spots. Griese looks good now, with Rex giving up 3 INT's in a game, but I suspect a move to put him in now will result in a sad post-season and a lot of 20-20 hindsight looks at Rex.
So we've dropped two, and one of them was fairly close to a top-tier team. I think the key would be to take a breath and remember there's still 5 regular season games left. We're sitting on home field advantage already. This is not the time to be a fairweather fan!
November 27, 2006
#15 MrGooch said . . .All, I have to say that in a rage I called Brian out as 'Toms Bitch'. That was a really unfair assessment. Though I would say that, if asked immediately after the game, Brian would probably have said that's how he felt.
To be fair and after calming significantly, I think Brad may be the beneficiary of some very hard hits should he stray out in the open and try to run the ball like Brady. I believe the idea that a quarterback will slide is now gone from the Bears defensive playbook and the assumption will be they are running as a back would. Brad may be in for a very long and miserable day.
PO makes a good point on that 4th and 3 inches, that had to really hurt the confidence of the entire team. Maybe the snap that didn't on the 8 yard line earlier was the deciding factor.
I still believe we have to at least see what the backup is made of, especially when #8 starts down the interception path again and it will happen, probably sooner than later. I cringe every time I see Grossman drop back to pass the ball, and I think you all do too but are wishing it would just get better. Maybe Griese is not a prime time QB but I submit he is probably not as bad as Grossman.
November 28, 2006
#16 said . . .Every one of you lining up to support "Sexy" Rexy ought to pull your heads out of your a**. This is the same lame china doll who still exhibits atrocious decision making skills. He is still making the same stupid decisions that he made in each of his previous injury shortened seasons. How many more oppurtunities are going to be squandered before somebody is going to be willing to sack up and put the blame where it belongs? Sit back and watch his mechanics, they make Stevie Wonder wince when he watches this clown line-up under center. Grossman is just the latest experiment that should be flushed down the toilet. He does not have the physical capabilities and it is quite obvious his mental make-up is not even close to what it is going to take to get deep into the post season. Everytime a defender gets remotely close to him he wings some sick looking knuckle ball off his back foot while ducking his head and closes his eyes waiting for the lights to go out. How come we can't get a Phillip Rivers or a Matt Leinart type of QB in a Bear uniform? I am so sick of waiting for that season to remember, I think we are owed one more than once every 22 or 23 years. Until we hold management accountable and insist they listen to our demands nothing will ever change. Quit settling for almost good enough and stop over paying for tickets and merchandise until things change. I am a true blue Bears fan, always have been and always will be, but I'm also a realist. Bring on the criticism, it'll prove you're clouded with blind devotion. Demand Grossman be benched and maybe he'll learn a lesson that is well over due, not only for Grossman but for any of the other players unwilling to play to their fullest potential more than once every 23 years.
November 30, 2006
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