Football joy is fleeting, especially early in the season. The Bears went on the road to their only rival Sunday night and beat the 4-0 Green Bay Packers, moving them within two games of the division lead and re-invigorating a team and its fans. We believe - perhaps for the first time since Rex Grossman threw an errant ball into the arms of Kelvin Hayden in February - that this team has life. The lethargy of the first quarter of the 2007 season will hopefully be a memory as the Bears progress through a ridiculously easier second quarter.
That starts Sunday at home against the Minnesota Vikings who'll be returning Tavaris "Is Brad Childress serious?" Jackson to the starting lineup. If the Bears don't win this week, Sunday night's a myth. It never happened. And we'll reconvene Monday morning to write the post-mortem on the 2007 season. The Bears must win but even more importantly, the Bears face an issue they never faced during early 2006...
The Bears must continue to improve offensively. Their commitment to the run needs to see an increase in the yards-per-rush numbers. Even with the emergence of TEA Time (Tight End Attack), the Bears can not ignore the wideouts - especially the deep play ability of Bernard Berrian. It doesn't all need to work Sunday at Soldier Field but if they can add a piece here and a piece there, the Bears offense can be more than effective; it can be downright good. And as the defense gets healthier by the week, the Chicago Bears can climb back up the ladder of the crapshoot (more crap than shoot) NFC and play in another one of those big February games.
#2 jdawg said . . .Posted this in the last one, just before this post came up.
The accurate portrayal of how I feel about Brett "Babies Sure Taste Good with Syrup" Favre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJuaZKBABO0October 9, 2007
#3 Bill said . . .This could actually be a harder task than the Packers. The Minny run D is tops in the league and Benson will not win any battles with their interior line. Off-tackle will be the rule of the day. Maybe Griese can dink and dunk the way Brady did last year, but I doubt it.
As for Berrian, let Bradley play until BB learns how to catch the fucking ball.
October 9, 2007
#4 Virtual Mike said . . .But one thing the Bears will have going for them - the crowd is going to be PUMPED. I wish I was going to this game, but my younger son is going with a friend. My next game is against Detroit. Hopefully we'll be going for 4 in a row and the division lead.
October 9, 2007
#5 Northside Superfan said . . .Okay, I was gone but now I'm back. Had to attend to some of my offshore companies - Interpol's being a total pain in the ass about the adult entertainment internet business.
Let me just, say, silly fools, to enjoy your short-lived success. If you think even for a second that the likes of Curtis E. Benson, Permanent-Doghouse-for-a-Reason Bradley, Not-Actually-Nearly-As-Good-As-He-Appears Hester, I'll-Believe-It-When-I-See-It Rookies-Never-Have-An-Impact Olsen, and About-As-Powerful-As-Tinker-Bell Wolfe and As Fragile as "They Call Me Mr. Glass" Samuel L in an M. Night Shyamalan Film coupled with 5 x Methusalah O-line can have ANY success, you're even stupider and more moronic than I thought - and believe me, I thought you were PLENTY stupid and moronic before. And I didn't even mention the Can't-Even-Throw-A-Nerf-Ball-5-Yards Mr. Clean (as in, All Washed Up) Greasy Spoon behind Mr. Overrated Center.
And don't even get me started on defense, a shell of an ephemera of a mirage of its former self (which was incidentally not that great anyway).
Fearless Prediction:
Bears 5 Vikings 23
Sorry folks, the truth hurts. It's good to be back.
October 9, 2007
#6 Northside Superfan said . . .There are three keys to beating the Vikings:
Stop the run, stop the run, stop the run.
They have no passing game, but Adrian Peterson (the other one) is dangerous. We must stop him--if the run defense opens up like it did in the first half of the packers game, we'll have some problems.
Griese will need to have a good, mistake-free game. I don't see us running well against their excellent D-Line, especially the way our blocking has been lately. We will need some key completions and some crucial TDs to win this one.
If we can stop their run game and force them to punt to Hester, we will win in a walk.
October 9, 2007
#7 Phil from SATX said . . .Also, Mike is a moron.
October 9, 2007
#8 tommy said . . .If you need any more excuse to get Bearimistic about this team, read this:
Ah, life is good again and there is hope in the air!
October 9, 2007
#9 Al in WI said . . .How many times has Griese fumbled the snap from center so far......duh - zero. He's no HOF player but he will lose fewer games than Wrecks. He's faster too. But so is my 92 yr old mother with her walker.
Prediction - Cedric isn't going to do much. Best move is going out of bounds at the end of a run
October 9, 2007
#10 Al in WI said . . .I agree with 90% of the above post. The Bears have to beat the vikings this sunday because MN is a terrible team with the worst offense ever, or at least since the '04 Bears. Jackson is awful and should provide at least 3 interceptions, were the secondary healthy I would call that 5 or 6. Seriously.
The Bears are a good 2/3 team. We have a great defense (healthy now), and a great special teams. That should be enough against the vikings, and hopefully enough for a rout.October 9, 2007
#11 tommy said . . .tommy boy, Rex didn't fumble any snaps from center either during the regular season. Get over it.
October 9, 2007
#12 Pissed Off said . . .Al - I think we are on the same page. I have nothing against Rex. Super arm and throws downfield very well. Actually throws most types of passes well. I was just very frustrated with his mobility and it didn't seem he could avoid anything in the pocket.
As for center snaps, you could be right although I think there was at least one or two? Maybe he recovered them.
Go Bears
October 9, 2007
#13 Pissed Off said . . .Totally agree that we need to beat MN. This team is bad, real bad and at home we should crush. Nothings a given right now but we have momentum. That should do it. I also agree with the "offense needs to continually improve" theme. BG took one big step toward doing that Sunday after taking a big step back the week before.
And to piggyback Als comment toward tommy boy, I hope your talking career-wise and not this season VS last season regarding the wins thing. And theres absolutely no chance BG is faster than Rex, neither are mobile but BG cant be faster so yeah, get over it.
October 9, 2007
#14 tommy said . . .No Rex did not fumble even once during the regular season.
October 9, 2007
#15 Al in WI said . . .PO'd.......In a 20 yd foot race between BG, Rex, and my mother with her walker, I pick my mother first, BG 2nd by an inch over Rex.
In another defense of Rex (because I do think he has talent) I don't think our genius O Coordinator did Rex any favors. There are quite a few plays that Rex could run well that are quick hits to slow the rush. Last year the quick slant to Davis was one. For whatever reason Davis and Bradley aren't being used much.
October 9, 2007
#16 Megan said . . .Tommy, I do think we agree on more than I thought then. The biggest weakness for Rex is mobility, though I think some of that can be traced to the two serious leg injuries he suffered.
On a different topic; has there ever been a quarterback who gets more of a pass for his mistakes than Brett Favre?October 9, 2007
#17 Nicole is miserable in this blue city said . . .Quick post--
I can't be around much this season but I am reading when I can. I promise you all I am still bleeding Bear blue and will forever
as well as watching every game I can.
You don't need to read the sordid details just know I am here, not far from Nicole, rooting for my hometown favorite, Chicago Bears.Beat the Vikes!
BEAR DOWN!XXOO
Megan
October 9, 2007
#18 Pissed Off said . . .Hugs from here Meg. Stay strong!
October 9, 2007
#19 Bill said . . .Tommy I cant debate the speed issue with you cuz I have no facts.(maybe I could go back and find some 40-times but I dont care enough to do it). I just kinda figured with the age thing that Rex is probably faster and in your post you made it sound that you were confident that BG was faster, not sure how you arrived at that conclusion.
Agree with Al on the mobility issue tracing back to the injuries, also I'm with tommy that Turner didnt help Rex but I'm not placing blame soley on him, I will attribute a lot of it to the O-line, and WRs as well. Seriously if Berrian had not dropped that TD pass from Rex VS Dallas I still think he starts in Detroit. Oh well, moot point now.
I think Favre gets passes (at this point in his career anyway) cuz he will be a sure HOFer. He's not God, the guy has the most INTs in league history, and you know that lots of those throughout his career have directly cost his team games. I think its cuz he's the media darling type plus the ohhh and awww overcoming all the family issues.
October 9, 2007
#20 Al in WI said . . .QBs getting a pass for some reason:
Romo (though granted it's only one bad game - and I did hear him compared to Rex at one point last night.)
Drew Brees (I don't read a lot about him granted, but for the horrible year he seems to be having you'd think the word "fluke" would be mentioned.)Regarding Favre - I've always put him in the top 3 QBs in fairl recent times, with Montana and Elway ahead of him, but Favre ahead of Marino (since Favre took his team to the SB twice.)
But nobody tracks the games he's "lost" for GB. I'd say Sunday could fall into that category. (I put it in quotes because the Bears really won the game.) But if they are going to fall all over themselves everytime he throws a TD or wins a game - there ought to be reasonable criticism for his failings too.
For example - we has some large number of comeback wins. Everyone thinks that's great. No one realizes that in order to have a comeback win, you have to be behind. Montana and Marino don't have that many because they got ahead and stayed there.
And how many of those times GB was behind were due to some bonehead INT or two that Favre threw in the first place? In baseball, a pitcher can't create his own save situation. I'm sure many of Favre's comebacks were the result of games they were losing because of his mistakes.
Actually - I think I've talked myself into dropping Favre to fourth place on my list.
October 9, 2007
#21 Pissed Off said . . .I understand that Favre gets somewhat of a pass because of his career body of work. But still, the way several media members cream themselves everytime he plays well makes me sick, and cries out for some balance. Some of the retarded interceptions he's thrown in his career have cost his team games, including playoff games over the years. And that is inexcusable for a guy who is a veteran like him.
I put him in the top 10 all-time, but not the top 5 personally.
Speaking of the Packers, let me be the first to call the Redskins to win on Sunday in Lambeau.October 9, 2007
#22 jeff said . . .Bill you make some great points there and very valid reasonings (if thats a word). Post of the day for sure for your explanations, mainly regarding Favre.
I will add that Favre took his team to the SB because he had more pieces, not just becuase he was better than Marino. I think Marino is ahead of him.
October 9, 2007
#23 Bill said . . .bill, brees is getting a pass because he's not playing poorly. they'vve got NO running game and their offensive line went from terrific to awful in an off-season. they also have an overrated receiving corps that relied too heavily on bombs down the field (remind you of anyone?) and now teams have taken that away. they've become dink and dunk. oddly enough, the saints and the jets are almost identical teams right now. dink and dunk offenses with very beatable defenses.
October 9, 2007
#24 jeff said . . .Jeff - you may have unintentioally proved my point. Here are his stats to date this year: 1 TD, 9 INTs, rating of 57.4;
Now - if the world dumps on Rex despite his seven great games last year, Brees should be burried well over his head. (And I am NOT making excuses or in any way supporting Rex for his failings; I'm just saying that Brees seems to be doing every bit as bad, and yet excuses are made for him - many of the same excuses coudl be made for Rex but (correctly ) are not..October 9, 2007
#25 Shady McBears Fan said . . .i've watched the saints games...because i have a gambling problem...rex was dumped upon last season when he was getting a great running game and great protection. rex just continued to stink. believe me, brees is in trouble down there. the saints aren't half as talented than the bears...even on offense.
October 9, 2007
#26 jonathan said . . .TEA time, I love it jeff. I believe this offense still has a long way to go to reach it's full potential and it begins with Cedric Benson. Committing to a (successful) rushing attack will open up opportunities downfield for Berrian, Moose and possibly Hester. I have a feeling Sunday can result in a DOMINATING performance on the part of the Chicago Bears, but only if they can stop the Vikings running game. Nothing, in my opinion, is more irritating to watch than your team have the ball run down their throats (like the pack did in the 1st qtr). In my mind there are 2 key statistics in every game that ALWAYS determine the outcome: Turnovers and TOP. Of course it all comes down to who executes the best when it counts.
PO'd. I'm not a Grossman hater/basher, I actually hope he gets another shot this year and makes the most of it. He can make plays that Griese can only dream about. Get this, I had a chance to meet Rex and his wife Allison. I actually noticed Allison first cause she is smoking hot, and then I realized the scruffy guy next to her was Grossman. And yes, he is just as socially awkward in person as he is on TV, but is a still nice guy overflowing with confidence. Although I did notice the strong, short stubby fingers (honest) when he shook my hand (about 3 times).
But right now Griese is steering the offense in the right direction, instilling a sense of fun and energy into the huddle. If he can continue to lead the unit successfully the job is certainly his to keep. That being said, I would hate for Rex to go elsewhere and have great success while the Bears are stuck with Griese and Orton for the next few years. I haven't given up on Rex, but I certainly don't mind poking fun at his terrible performances - you kind of have to so it doesn't drive you insane.
P.S. Mike - You can't possibly think Hester is 'not as good as he appears'. The guy impacts the game without even touching the ball. Your comments are beyond pessimistic and it's as if you're saying exactly what Bears fans don't want to hear (and you know it). But for some fucked up reason or another it's good to hear from you again.
October 10, 2007
#27 Phil from SATX said . . .Regarding rankings of QBs ---
How can a Bear's fan not rightfully put Sid Luckman at #1 on ANY list. If you say "modern era," or "QBs I've actually seen play" I can buy that. But for ALL-TIME?
How about a record-setting win of 73-0 over the Washington Redskins in the 1940 NFL Championship ??
How about "We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation..." ??
And here's some wikipedia knowledge (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Luckman ):
During his career, Luckman completed 51.8% of his passes for 14,686 yards and 137 touchdowns with 134 interceptions. He averaged 8.4 yards per attempt, second all-time only to Otto Graham(8.6). His career touchdown rate--the percentage of his pass attempts that resulted in touchdowns--of 7.9% is easily the best in history, with Otto Graham second at 6.6%.
In 1943, Luckman's finest season, he completed 110 of 202 passes for 2194 yards and 28 touchdowns. His 13.9% touchdown rate is the best ever in a single-season, while his 10.9 yards per attempt is 2nd all-time. During one game that year, Luckman threw for 443 yards and 7 touchdowns, still tied for the most passing TDs in one game; it was also the first 400-yd passing game in NFL history.
Luckman led the NFL in average gain(yards per attempt) an NFL record 7 times, including a record 5 consecutive years from 1939-43, and led the NFL in passing yards 3 times.
Luckman was a five-time All-NFL selection, won the MVP in 1943, and led the "Monsters of the Midway" to championships in 1940, 1941, 1943, 1946. Despite the fact that his career ended in 1950, Luckman still owns most major Bears' passing records, including career yards and touchdowns. He was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1965.
Sid Luckman, the best QB the Bears have EVER had, the best QB th NFL has EVER SEEN.
October 10, 2007
#28 Phil from SATX said . . .Shady and Northside, that Virtual Mike was me. It was supposed to be funny. Was it not over the top enough? That's why I called it Virtual Mike. I pictured it being intoned with a Plankton voice.
Oh well.
October 10, 2007
#29 Rancid said . . .There was an article in the Sun-Times about how Griese's success may allow the team to keep Lance Briggs (because they wouldn't have to go to the expensive free agent market, at currently expected).
That led me to search for team salaries. I found one from last year on USA Today. Here are some interesting tidbits - remember, all as of last year -
John Gilmore made twice as much as both Vasher and Tillman ($1MM to about $500M each)
Adrian Peterson made $1.6MM.
Moose made $5.7MM. Don't know if his contract is up, but if it is, there's some serious Briggs money.
You think the Bears think Hunter Hillenmeyer is an also-ran at linebacker? He made $5.1MM. I'll ask, is he worth that? Could someone else do his job to keep Briggs?
Mike Brown made $3.2MM. He won't get that again.
Here's something unbelievable - Ricky Manning Jr. at $6.6MM !!!! I know free agents are expensive, but... Wouldn't you think that would mean the Bears would be using him opposite Tillman instead of exclusively in nickel package?
No other surprises, the highest paid group as a whole are the offensive line (second highest average salary behind quarterback).
Here's a link:
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/teamdetail.aspx?year=2006&team=5If anyone can find more current information, let me know.
All I know is, MUST KEEP BRIGGS.
October 10, 2007
#30 Phil from SATX said . . .Phil - great link. I'd seen that before but forgot where. The main thing I learned from it is that I am teaching my two boys to long snap. Mannely makes 700k+ yearly and that's his only job. I know that long snapping is no easy skill to master but dang, if one of them could get good at it, there's my retirement!
I agree on Briggs. Let's find the money. I still have lost some respect for him after all the public crap last offseason but I'm willing to put all that on Rosenhaus if he has a few more games like that one!
October 10, 2007
#31 JB said . . .Rancid, we're working on kicking and punting, the second and third best jobs on the team. More positions available - if I remember right, the Bears are one of the few teams to retain a long snapping specialist. Sure seems worth it.
Another aside on the game, it was great to see the penalties reduced to almost nothing. That's more like the Bears of last year. Those uncharacteristic penalties cost us just as much as the Griese interceptions in the Lions game. I think Lions will be in for bigtime payback in a few weeks.
Interesting to hear about the coaches' faith in Danieal Manning in being able to improve at cornerback on and inter- and even intra-game basis. I hope they're right.
October 10, 2007
#32 Bill said . . .Phil...to quote the oft hated Peyton Manning "Cut that Meat! Cut that Meat"...you are bringing it today. Funny stuff on the virtual Mike thing, but next time explain it sooner...i was getting steamed!
October 10, 2007
#33 Phil from SATX said . . .Jonathon - yes, I did mean QBs in the more modern era. I'm even excluding Johnny Unitas (who I actually HAVE seen play in Wrigley Field.) I think the game is too different to compare. For example, Luckman's completion rate was likely excellent for his time, but certainly not now.
My (very) arbitrary cutoff is somewhere in the 80s. Evenually, Manning will be on my list, and maybe Brady (with an asterisk?)
October 10, 2007
#34 Bill said . . .I obviously failed at my mission, it was meant to be immediately apparent as satire. I guess I'll keep my day job. (which is apparently posting on this blog)
Speaking of Mike, isn't it kind of strange that he's flown the coop? I'm getting the strange feeling that he may have actually been a Packers fan (or at least a Bears hater) cleverly masquerading as one of the true faithful. If so, the ruse failed when the Bears killed the would-be king last Sunday. Will we ever see him again? Perhaps in another form...
"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste..."
October 10, 2007
#35 Phil from SATX said . . .I suggest readin Haugh today in the Tribune: "Media Shoudl Stop Piling On Rex."
Essntially, he's saying enough is enough. The kid lost his starting job, obviously millions of dollars, but still remains available to the press, patient in his answers (except the "ignorant" comment); and who among us woudl keep OUR composure as well as he has.
In other words, being not as good as we hoped or wanted or needed is one thing - but to almost find joy in his failure? The only athlete I thoroughly enjoyed seeing crash and burn was Cade. Rex is essentially a decent kid who coudl not handle the job. It certainly wasn't for lack of effort (witness the many injury comebacks). I don't think he shoudl start anymore - I'd rather see Orton if Griese were ot go down - but I admire his ability to handle himself through all this ridicule. I hope my kids have as much poise as he has if they find themselves in tough situations in their careers.
October 10, 2007
#36 Phil from SATX said . . .I totally agree with that, and I think most people here, including the ones who supported making a change, also agree. Rex has never been a putz off the field, just the contrary.
How much difference has Rex's career been than someone like David Carr? He was another young quarterback who lacked the tools to deal with a heavy rush. Because of Houston's then-abysmal Oline, he was sacked like a billion times. He spent years under that scenario and now no one knows whether he has anything worth saving or not. If Rex had been installed behind a great pass blocking line, it's possible he could have had a Drew Bledsoe-type career - his immobility wouldn't have hurt him because he'd have time to throw. And before you protest that Rex makes poor decisions when he HAS time to throw, I will argue that running for his life has made him shell-shocked, just like David Carr. He's in pre-panic mode at all times because of what he has already faced.
So things could have been very different for Rex. On the other hand, before you decide that the kid just suffered from a bad line, remember that that's what separates good quarterbacks with strong arms from great, or potentially great quarterbacks. Romo was running for his life as well, and succeeded in making many good things happen in our game. Not so good in his next game, but he still came back and won the game for them (him and Nick Folk, who is potentially the next Robbie Gould). A quarterback has to be able to make decisions and plays under pressure. Some have it, some don't, some don't have it early but get it later, some never do.
Which is Rex? Will we ever find out?
October 10, 2007
#37 Bill said . . .I guess I have to do all the heavy lifting today. That's okay, I volunteered.
Here's some funny lines from a guy who does have being funny as his day job, Bill Simmons:
(the rest is all him)
The Broncos are two plays away from being 0-4 right now, with a monster schedule coming up -- home games against Pittsburgh, Tennessee and Green Bay, road games at Kansas City, Detroit, Chicago, Oakland and Houston, and a home-and-home against San Diego -- and if that's not enough, they were just blown off the local sports map by the Rockies and might have lost their big-money halfback for the next 12 months. The good news is Shanahan made a fork move at a team breakfast this week just by staring at it.
Random question on the Travis Henry thing: I thought pot killed sperm cells? How many kids would this guy have sired if he wasn't a fan of the Mary Jane? Twenty? Thirty? And did you ever think the same person could potentially shatter Shawn Kemp's fertility records and Ricky Williams' drug test records? Put it this way: You are making a STRONG statement when you purchase a Henry jersey right now. You're basically saying, "I love pot, I love sex, and your dad would have a heart attack if he knew I was dating you."The Panthers are doomed for every week that involves the words "David" and "Carr." Still, I enjoyed when Kris Jenkins channeled his inner Pacino to reporters after Sunday's embarrassing loss to Tampa: "As a team, collectively, we have no heart, we have no energy, we have no drive. The pride and passion that you have for this game makes you want to win. It's not about the money. It's not about looking the part. It's not about standing on the field so everybody can see you on TV and you look good. It's about pride and passion. If you have those two, if you win or if you lose, you're going to look like a football team. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to wrap this up so I can electrocute David Carr in the shower."
(Note: I made the last sentence up, but Jenkins did say everything else.)The Patriots can score in bunches, they can run the ball, they can stop the run AND they can stop the pass. They don't have a weakness. During Monday night's thrashing of the Bengals, you almost got the feeling they were screwing around. In one goal-line situation, they tossed out a backfield of Junior Seau and Heath Evans. They threw a TD pass to a linebacker. They kept feeding Moss in garbage time so he could pass 100 yards and get a second TD. At one point, my buddy Bug called me and decided the Pats looked like someone who had just won a ton of money playing blackjack in a casino; now they were wandering around bored and saying things like, "I think I'll play a couple hands of Pai Gow Poker!"
Simmons is a funny dude, maybe the funniest.
October 10, 2007
#38 jonathan said . . .I wish Rex well, but the best thing Angelo coudl ever do for him is see if there is any trade interest in him now. If Griese gets hurt and he comes back under the pressure of playoffs on the line, he could be toast. He IS shell-shocked I believe.
But I'm sure he won't be traded. Jerry probably wants to give him one last chance to do something positive IF the opportunity presents itslef with a Griese injury. (Greesy injury - that sounds very painful.)
October 10, 2007
#39 Erurrishtug said . . .Bill -- amazing that you saw Unitas live.
I agree that the modern era is totally different game. In terms of defining the role of quarterback as it exists today, Sid Luckman is the George Washington of his position. The forward pass had never been such a threat until Halas and Luckman mastered the T-formation. Just couldn't help giving a shout out to the legend.
October 10, 2007
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