It was an excruciating three quarters of football played in northern California yesterday and it seemed we were watching the last gasps of breath be drained from the Chicago Bears season. I looked around Josie Woods Pub and realized that the gang of hundreds who filled the joint in February had eroded back to the originals. I kept looking to the Bears sideline for Dick Jauron.
But then there he was. Rex Grossman. And the game changed. After a turn-your-head-from-the-screen-in-embarrassment fumbled snap, he came alive and the Bears started playing with fire (everyone except for our disgusting excuse for a starting running back). The bar seemed to come alive: part out of the humor of the situation and part out of Grossman’s own presence on the field. There’s no way of denying that Rex Grossman single-handedly woke the Chicago Bears offense from the mire of a two-game malaise. The debate has been reborn. Rick Morrissey’s aptly titled Redemption of Rex in the Trib countered well (actually) by Mariotti’s plea to leave Rex in the backup role. Our humble little site will be inundated with pro-Rex, anti-Rex and this week, why not? How much can we say about how impressive Trumaine McBride has been at cornerback?
Rex starts Sunday. And not because he’s going to lead the Bears to an undefeated second half and a glorious postseason run. Rex starts Sunday because Brian Griese is Brian Griese and we can pray to every shooting star in the vast night sky but that’s not going to change. Grossman’s downside is as notorious as Big Boy Caprice but his ability to rally the guys on that offense is indisputable, strange as that may seem.
And more…Rex Grossman is damn good theatre. And when a team isn’t going to win a championship, I’ll take great entertainment like him any day of the week
#2 Somebody's got to go back and get a shitload of dimes said . . .For the love of God start Kyle Orton. I will puke a river of vomit if I see Rex Grossman hand's fondling Olin Kreutz' nut sack against Seattle. Leave Grossman in Oakland.
November 12, 2007
#3 Orton and Olson said . . .For the love of God start Kyle Orton. I will puke a river of vomit if I see Rex Grossman hand's fondling Olin Kreutz' nut sack against Seattle. Leave Grossman in Oakland.
November 12, 2007
#4 mikebdot said . . .Lovie and Turner don't like offensive players with last names who begin with O.
November 12, 2007
#5 Phil from SATX said . . .I can't believe you think, Jeff, that our O-line was playing with fire. They repeatedly stand around before Benson is on the groung. That is just plain unacceptable. You should do yourself a favor and watch Fred Miller on that pitch to Wolfe. You should watch Olin Kreutz routinely get moved into the designed hole on the running play. When Jason McKie has to seek the hole in which he is supposed to block the linebacker, you have problems.
For some reason we decided to run a lot of two-TE, FB/RB, single WR running plays on the Raiders side of the field. This was just before the play-action pass to Gilmore (I think) where Moose was called for a block in the back (which was f'in BS as his face was on the defender's shoulder and his left hand was in front of the defender, which is a block to the side, regardless of where the defender's legs are). The running game did jack shit because there were 9 men in the box, against 8 blockers. Guess who won every play? It had NOTHING whatsoever to do with Benson. Nothing. I'm sick of this bashing of Benson as if the O-line is playing actual football. They might as well be carrying hockey sticks because they sure as shit aren't playing football. Nor did they look "excited" until Garza's hold bought Grossman just enough time to deliver the pass to Berrian. Oh, yes, that was a hold.
Of the 20 yard runs last season, I seem to recall GAPING holes so that you could actually make a juke or gain leverage on the safety, but when the safety hits you just on the other side of the hole, there isn't much you can do without tripping over your incompetent blockers. I don't recall any GAPING holes this entire season. Does anyone else? If you can find one in the Raiders game that should have been more than 10 yards I'll be glad to check it out.
If there are 9 guys in the box, why the hell aren't we doing PA on THOSE plays? It got 10 yards before Moose got the bunk penalty.
Also, Archuleta played VERY well yesterday. The whole defense did, but there were some plays where he really stood out, coming off blocks to make tackles. A good pass break-up just before the end of the game. Solid performance in my opinion.
November 12, 2007
#6 jdawg said . . .Hey shitload of dimes guy - maybe I'm stupid but I've never understood your screen name. Can you explain?
Jeff is right - Rex is pure entertainment. There's not a more INTERESTING QB in the league. You never know what's going to happen. And I think we've all seen enough of Griese - can't the guy go work out or something, lift some weights, do some arm wrestling? He's actually more of an embarrassment at QB than Rex with his nasty ass arm.
In the words of Maximus, ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Yes, Maximus, we are.
Go Rex! Make it interesting!
Jeff, the only quibble, and it's slight, is I don't know whether it's fair to dislike Ced more after that game than before - I really thought it was a decent outing, and more importantly, it looked for the first time like he was trying hard for extra yards before going down. He also caught a few and had no drops, made some first downs. Don't get me wrong, he still sucks, but I have trouble believing that people who have been watching him throughout this year could not have given him a more positive grade for that game (like F to C minus maybe?) Still an improvement.
November 12, 2007
#7 A shitload of dimes said . . .Kissing Suzy Kolber is the only site with the proper attitude towards Rex:
http://kissmesuzy.blogspot.com/2007/11/throwgasm.html
read the comments
November 12, 2007
#8 jdawg said . . .Defending Cedric Benson is nearly as bad as defending Rex Grossman. The most pathetic and hated 1-2 punch in football. And they are all ours!!!
November 12, 2007
#9 DTB said . . .The sex cannon has spoken. Hide the women and children!
November 12, 2007
#10 B.A. Baracus said . . .Orton, you are joking. Anyone remember his 4 INT game against the Bengals? I do. Anyone remember his terrible '05 season? I do. Maybe, just maybe he took his role as scout team QB seriously. As seriously as he took rounding out that fat ass gut and growing his sweet beard. The dude was the reason we signed Greise, period.
November 12, 2007
#11 Phil from SATX said . . .Rex is "pure entertainment"?!? I would much rather be entertained with a QB on par with the caliber of Brady, Favre or Romo, than Grossman. Obviously, I would need to re-pack my crack pipe if I ever thought the Bears would get a good QB.
Sure, I love entertainment - Grossman should be driven to the sideline out of the tunnel in a clown car - and - with the Marx Brothers playing Offensive line and Bozo Benson as the RB, we could watch the filming of a Keystone Cops movie every Sunday. Whoopie Dooooo!!!
November 12, 2007
#12 Shady McBears Fan said . . .MikeB, I'm going to call you the resident expert on our line. Did they look better in this game than previously? I thought no on pass blocking, yes on run blocking. Your thoughts?
And B.A., please, obviously we would like to be entertained by great QBs. None of those around here, are there? The most entertaining on our roster, by far, is Rex. And don't be surprised if this provides a big jump start to the O, ONLY because RT loves the long ball with Rex, so the field will be stretched. Once that happens, lots of things good can happen underneath. Yes there will be picks, but hopefully they will be long ones that won't cost much in the way of field position. I don't think RT's going back to the limited, emasculating game plan he tried with Rex early. I think it's fire away. In other words, back to last year - when we had picks aplenty but at least some high scores.
I for one am ready for that.
November 12, 2007
#13 Northside Superfan said . . .Give Ron Turner credit for making the decision to give Rex Grossman extra snaps in practice last week.
It's funny how one game, one pass and one victory can turn a career around. Sure I feel good for Rex, but I'm not about to be fooled by one pass in a game against the Oakland Raiders when history tells me "Bad Rex" is just waiting around the corner.
Sure there's an argument to be made that the Bears should ride the big wave momentum and leave Rex in, but there's also an argument to be made in not taking away the starting job from Griese just because of a minor injury to his non-throwing shoulder.
I still haven't made up my mind who I'd rather see in there while the Bears' season is still alive. Personally, I'm not sure it makes much of a difference who's behind center with such a terrible line and below-average running back. The same QB debate we've had is still burning:
Do you go with option A: A strong armed, high risk-reward player who has shown little consistancy by following up outstanding performances with udder disappointments, but has the most potential for a long term answer to the QB position?
Or do you go with option B: A veteran QB who knows his limitations and will tend to make the smart play, focusing on short to mid-range passing plays to run the offense with more consistancy?
At this point I'm leaning towards Grossman, but I've been back and forth all day. To me, the coaching staff went to Griese to limit the turnovers and create consistancy for the offense, something that I haven't seen yet. At this point in the season, which choice makes more sense to you?
This decision is Lovie's to make and one he will certainly be critisized for either way. One thing is certain though, any calls for the bearded one, Kyle Orton, before the season is mathematically over is plain silly to me.
November 12, 2007
#14 CAK said . . .Well Jeff, I do agree with you that Rex is good theatre. But he sure as hell didn't earn back his starting job.
Playing with fire? Were we watching the same game? If the offense was fired up, then I think Brian Griese should put some fire on his shoulder to reduce the swelling.
The O-Line sucks! I'm thinking about getting back on the defending Benson bandwagon because of how shitty the run blocking is. I don't know how John St. Clair could possibly be worse than Fred Miller or John Tait. Every single play, they get pushed back immediately. Every time Benson is tackled in the backfield, Miller is right there to give him a hand up and say "Sorry you're averaging 3 yards a carry man...thats my fault."
And unfortunately, there was the same old Rex. Yes, he threw one great pass at a crucial moment, but he made all the same bad moves.
Griese, if he is healthy deserves the start, but frankly I'm fairly indifferent.
November 12, 2007
#15 jeff said . . .Like I said last post, Rex is the best thing for the team, because he is well liked by the team and he has a better arm than Griese. Orton should be #2. Also, there has to be a change with either the O-Line or Bensen. One play there is no hole for Bensen, next play he trips, etc. Niether of them are playing a down at the same time. However, there where times when Bensen showed new effort and got some first downs and the O-Line did have some good plays, but then the rest of the blame falls on Ron Turner. I mean his record at the University of Illinois as a head coach was 35-57. Wow. The problems are all on the offense, with the D coming back to life and injuries are healing, I think the D will be fine.
November 12, 2007
#16 Heywood Jublomey said . . .shitload of dimes is a blazing saddles reference. and a good one.
November 12, 2007
#17 Midway Monster said . . .Rex got very lucky on one long pass. He still fumbled his first snap of the game. He will continue to suck just as badly as he has his entire professional career. Nothing has changed. Don't be fooled.
November 12, 2007
#18 jdawg said . . .What's this? Is Jeff being optimistic and rallying da Blog for the second half! As they say in the USMC: Hoo-rah.
Shall we all jump on the Rex train once again?
-- Midway --
November 12, 2007
#19 Silver lining said . . .next game Rex the Sex Cannon will dry-hump Benson's ass for 123 yards and 2 tds. He will also fire such a bullet to Olsen that Mofi Totupu's eyebrows catch on fire. By half time Hasselback's wife will have filed divorce papers. Sexy Rexy will then bootleg it for 24 yards and the final TD, as Holgrem is fed whole fish while a crew from Animal Planet catches it all on film.
November 12, 2007
#20 Grossman = Shit Sandwich said . . .By playing Rex Grossman, Lovie Smith and Ron Turner may be expediting their very own departure from this ballclub.
Lovie Smith, Year 4 is bad rerun of Dave Wannstedt, Year 4 and Dick Jauron, Year 4. Somebody please pass the remote.
November 12, 2007
#21 Al in WI said . . .Bend over Bears fans because it's another helping of Grossman. And you thought this year couldn't get any worse.
November 12, 2007
#22 jdawg said . . .Excellent post Jeff. I think David Haugh nailed it today as well. The reaction of the players to Grossman's td pass spoke volumes about how he's viewed in the locker room. Right or wrong they believe in him, and like him.
Phil, I think you are right on about Turner's aproach early in the year with Grossman. I also think Rex allowed the critics to get to him as well, and played not to make a mistake. His hesitations created some of his early problems because of that.
That was what most encouraged me about his play yesterday. He lauched 3 or 4 passes down field besides the game winner. In that sense he handled the benching correctly.
Bottom line is he gives this team the best chance to win because of his ability to make big plays. As Phil, and others mentioned that threat alone should open up more room for the running game and underneath passes.November 12, 2007
#23 Shady McBears Fan said . . .I would be very careful about bending over before the SEX CANNON.
November 12, 2007
#24 Jimbo said . . .Lovie's press conference is coming up here in a few minutes, I'll be listening carefully to see if we hear:
"Rex is our quarterback"
or
"Brian is our quarterback"
My guess is, at this point, the latter.
November 12, 2007
#25 Mike is retarded said . . .Roll with Rex. We had to see what Griese was worth, we gave him a more than adequate shake, and we now know he's not a legit option.
Rex may still have some untapped upside. Let's find out. If anything let's just make whoever is going to sign him spend more than they should.
November 12, 2007
#26 Midway Monster said . . .Mike has mastered the art of posting under a fake name. How brilliant.
November 12, 2007
#27 jeff said . . .I dono... was it me? I thought what won the game was a dumb-a$$ single coverage of Berrian with some second-stringer bed-wetting reserve corner who got exploited to win it. Other than that, it was 3+ Quarters of a girly kickfest game.
But - I am up for some of the Koolaid you all been sippin'. Bartenter... I'll have what they all been drinkin' - pass me a cup of that Rex on the Rocks please.
-- Midway --
November 12, 2007
#28 Midway Monster said . . .midway, agreed. defense was great though. i'm not in the business of criticizing this team when they win. you guys can take care of that. it's about winning ballgames and i want more.
November 12, 2007
#29 Lovie Smith at 3:12pm CT said . . .Jeff -- Final Post on the Subject: be careful when using a title like The Return Of The King: don't want to "...go ahead and crown their a$$es" :-)
-- Midway --
November 12, 2007
#30 Midway Monster said . . .If BRIAN IS CLEARED MEDICALLY, HE SHOULD BE READY TO GO!
November 12, 2007
#31 Shady said . . .Okay Jeff. Fair enough. Just so long as you brought enought of what your drinkin for everybody.
-- Midway --
(REX RULES!)November 12, 2007
#32 Big Earl said . . .But it's still unclear who will start... That's what Lovie Smith does, Mr. Ambiguity. Wants to keep Seattle guessing (along with the rest of Bears nation) on which QB we should prepare for.
Lovie also mentioned he was not pleased from the RB's performance. At least he didn't pull an Angelo and blow sunshine up Benson's ass.
Didn't Grossman have his best games last year against Seattle? Just a thought...
November 12, 2007
#33 said . . .I heard Lovie to say I can't pull my head out of my black ass to make a decision on who should be our QB next Sunday. So check in with me later on in the week.
November 12, 2007
#34 craig said . . .Also, Babich moved upstairs to the booth for yesterday's game instead of hanging out on th sideline. Did that make a difference yesterday? I dunno, but the defense certainly looked a lot more effective. Seattle's passing game will be a good test for this defense, hopefully Vash makes his return next week.
November 12, 2007
#35 Pissed Off said . . .This isn't, in itself, an argument one way or the other... but I was really dozing until Rexy took the field.
Don't get me wrong, I haven't forgotten all the terrible throws, the fumbles, the general ineptitude he's displayed in so many forgettable games. But if I have to choose between watching 1) a bad turnover-prone offense that's as boring as a bag of dirt, and 2) a bad turnover-prone offense that's either a mangled train wreck or a fight between killer robots.... Well... I'll take the latter.
November 12, 2007
#36 jeff said . . .I think I speak for everone when I say, shut the hell up already Mike and all your aliases. Reading your constant bitching is mind numbing, if its not one thing its another, for god's sake just stop.
Phil in post #5 I love your "dont get me wrong, he still sucks" reference to Benson. Loved it laughed hard.
Shady regarding your comment on there being an argument for putting Griese back in there since he was the starter....Rex was the starter, not Griese, to begin with and its Rex's rightful job just as it was to start this season.
Those who argue Griese was put in to limit turnovers and give consistency are right but CMON. That in no way, shape or form happened. Griese looked worse than Bad Rex at times and absolutely does not have the upside or ability of Rex. He did nothing for this team. We absolutely would have won AT LEAST 2 games (which is what noodle arm gave us) with Rex in there during the weeks BG started. BG didnt bring us any extra victories in fact I argue he lost 2 games single handedly for us (both to the lions.)
November 12, 2007
#37 Phil from SATX said . . .pissed off, i was absolutely hoping you had the gameday column this week. i feel like it would have been your redemption night. anyway, if there's one thing i can't stand its YEAH BUT fans...."we won! YEAH BUT we suck!" go watch nascar on sunday and stop wasting time.
November 12, 2007
#38 mikebdot said . . .Trying to figure out why Lovie would take this week to call out CB's performance, when it was at least better and more effortful than previous outings. What I think is this - he's on to the fact that Ced has his sights set too low, and maybe he overheard Ced saying that he was pleased by his performance - not sure if that happened but wouldn't be surprised if that was Ced's take. And he wants to make sure that just not fumbling, not dropping passes and getting a few first downs is not enough to call it a good performance.
Still think it was Ced's best game in a while. Time for him to raise his sights!
November 12, 2007
#39 Pissed Off said . . .Phil: no way I am an expert, I'm just calling it like I see it. I think they looked terrible, period. They brought all kinds of pressure though and Griese/Grossman don't make the proper adjustments at the line to make them pay for it. It's poor QB play in my opinion, but even if a team KNOWS you're running the ball and they KNOW WHERE you're running the ball, there is no excuse for just completely whiffing blocks. There are plays where they literally don't make contact with the guy in front of them and not because it's someone else's assignment, you can see the head movement indicate who they're SUPPOSED to be blocking, the guy strolling right past them, especially on that play to Wolfe. The linebacker would have had him anyway, but Miller just watched the end run over there too.
They are awful. Period. I'm not saying that Benson is great or anything like that, but you cannot blame him solely. That's all I'm saying. Saying the WHOLE OFFENSE looked like they had energy when Rex came back is hyperbole (and that's fine), but when you single out Benson as being someone that didn't show energy, I'm sorry, but that's just not true. The line routinely stands around prior to the whistle blowing. ROUTINELY. That, to me, is just as inexcusable as any "lack of fire" by Benson when he gets up and goes back to the huddle. That's not who he is. But apparently that's what the lame ass O-line needs to perform and that's freaking pathetic. If you need someone else to feed off of, you should quit the game.
November 12, 2007
#40 Shady McBears Fan said . . .Just reported that REX WILL START SUNDAY AGAINST SEATTLE!
November 12, 2007
#41 Pissed Off said . . .PO'd
I said there was an argument to be made that it is unfair to bench Griese just because he got injured. As of now, he's still #1 on the depth chart. Is it fair to bump him down because he tweaked his shoulder? Many people would say no.
November 12, 2007
#42 Pissed Off said . . .It was posted 4 minutes ago on da site.
November 12, 2007
#43 Pissed Off said . . .And all I'm saying is that Rex was #1 on the depth chart to start the year and its his rightful job. Was it fair that he got bumped because the rest of the team was sucking shit alongside him? No.
No matter anyway, if the source is right, Rex is starting Sunday.November 12, 2007
#44 Pissed Off said . . .Shit, source may be bad, check that statement......for now.
November 12, 2007
#45 Shady McBears Fan said . . .Guys, I wish you'd realize that Rex Grossman gives us the best chance and has the talent to be a great quarterback in this league. Give him a chance. We can still make the playoffs. Rex could very well lead us to another Super Bowl appearance. We're better than our record. In the end we may regret that Lovie was idiot enough to bench Rex in the first place.
November 12, 2007
#46 Pissed Off said . . .Where are you reading that PO'd? I don't see any official reports on da site and none of the message boards are reporting him the starter...
November 12, 2007
#47 Shady McBears Fan said . . .Sorry, shot my load premature.
November 12, 2007
#48 Pissed Off said . . .The Sex Cannon will do it to ya every time.
I like your passion in (#44) - but Superbowl?? C'mon. I like the kool-aid as much as anyone, but let's keep it real. Remember getting pissed off at Bears fans predicting blow-outs against the Raiders? And now you're predicting a Rex Grossman Superbowl run? You've gone from cautious optimism to drunken predictions of greatness all because of the cum-slinger, the Sex Cannon, Rex Grossman.
The Sex Cannon will do it to ya every time.
November 12, 2007
#49 B.A. Baracus said . . .There are 20 teams that would love to have Rex Grossman. We have him, so lets use him.
November 12, 2007
#50 B.A. Baracus said . . .Please, everyone return to earth about the Bears. Regardless of the QB under center, the Bears are doomed because of their running game. The passing game is predictable because the running game is constipated. Forget about Cedric Benson looking like he was trying against the Raiders - he probably was - but that means nothing because his yards per carry dropped for the season down to 3 yards per.
It is this simple - in the offseason, Ange-blo and Smith made the wrong assessment about Benson's abilities when matched with the O Line's abilities and age. The O Line is good in run zone blocking and that is about it. Benson is not a runner that can exploit zone blocking. He is not a cut back runner and his vision is crap. Plus, the O Line is getting thrown around like aged rag dolls anyway, so big holes in the line are rare.
This does not mean that Benson necessarily sucks, he just may not be in the right scheme. However, the O Line is done. Re-tool the damn line and sign Michael Turner to create competition at the RB position.
November 12, 2007
#51 jeff said . . .PO'd,
I agree that there are 20 teams that would love to have Grossman.
8 of those teams are in the Canadian Football League and 12 of them are competing for the NCAA title...
November 12, 2007
#52 B.A. Baracus said . . .what's the point of coming back to earth? ok. the bears can't make the playoffs. they stink. i'm not going watch the seattle game.
November 12, 2007
#53 I pissed myself said . . .Jeff,
I fail to see the point of your sarcasm. There is nothing wrong with watching the Bears/Seattle game, in fact, I have every intention of watching the game. However, I am not under any illusions about the state of this Bears team. They have serious issues on the offensive side of the ball (more so than the defense) that are not going to just magically go away. If people really think that the biggest issue is the QB, that is fine - they are entitled to their opinion. The game, however, is won in the trenches and the Bears O Line is crap
November 12, 2007
#54 jdawg said . . .Pissed Off, you are nuttier than a fruitcake. 20 teams that would love to have Rex Grossman... HA.
November 12, 2007
#55 jeff said . . .PO
that never happens with the SEX CANNON
November 12, 2007
#56 B.A. Baracus said . . .the point of my sarcasm is that too many people come to this site to simply sprinkle negativity on positive situations. the bears aren't great, of course not. but they'd had thrilling moments all year and yesterday's play by grossman was downright thrilling. a guy who's been shit on by everybody alive and he wins a ballgame. this is a game.
November 12, 2007
#57 BearDown1982 said . . ."Sprinkle negativity on positive situations?" If barely beating a Raiders team that has a shitty run defense and a crappy offense is a positive, then Whoopie Doooo!!
Thrilling moments? They haven't won 2 games in a row all year!! Sometimes you have to "sprinkle some realism" on the rah rah parade embodied, for instance, in PO'd's post #44, which is pure madness. I have no grudge against PO'd, but someone needs to wipe the koolaid off his chin.
Plus, Jeff, aren't you the one that started a thread last week entitled, "Play offs go Bye Bye"? That post sure brougnt out the positive tude all across the board.
November 12, 2007
#58 CAK said . . .I admit, it felt very good to see Rex and BB connect on that bomb to win the game...brought back memories of early 2006 and the Seattle playoff game. It was also nice to see Rex throwing the ball down field. (shit, if you are gonna play Rex, let him do his thing) For momentum's sake, I say they start Rex against Seattle.
I'm certainly a bit concerned that we couldn't dominate a crap team like the Raiders coming off a bye week. The defense looked better yesterday, but man, the Raiders offense was brutal! I do hope this at least gives the defense some confidence going into next week's game though. And please Wele, don't just disappear next week...follow it up and play well again!
This may be premature...but, if McBride continues to play this well the rest of the season, I say the Bears trade Vasher this offseason. McBride looks like he gets it so far and appears to be much more physical than Nate. Now don't get me wrong, I love Vash...but we need other positions filled now! You can always get something good for a pro bowl corner, and we clearly need offensive lineman and skill players on offense. Any thoughts?
Also, where was Olsen yesterday??? Seemed like he didn't get on the field at all...or maybe it was just because we kept punting.
November 12, 2007
#59 CAK said . . .Why is everyone writing off the season? It's either let's hope but we know we're doomed this season or it's just we're doomed this season. I fully understand the state of the team but with Rex back and the team giving a very postive reaction to that, that is all we need. To me, the entire team seemed to play better. It's like now they felt that they had what they had last year. It will piss me off personally if at the end of the season, we won the super bowl and all I hear here is everyone trying to take back what they said. On the other hand, there will be people saying there right if the season tanks and what good is this? Maybe we should talk about how to improve the current team because thats all we got.
November 13, 2007
#60 StartOlsen said . . .Maybe I should stick to reading the posts instead of ranting on everyone's opinion... still, we need to get rid of Ron Turner.
November 13, 2007
#61 StartOlsen said . . .welcome back Rex.
McBride is finally getting the credit I screamed about on this blog, unheard, two week or so ago. Love that kid.
Post #18 Jdawg funniest yet.
Damn, its good to have a win.
November 13, 2007
#62 Shady McBears Fan said . . .Forget the Rex-Griese debate.
BENCH BENSON AND START AP BABY!!!November 13, 2007
#63 Mike said . . .BearDown'82, I was definitely surprised and a little upset Greg Olsen wasn't involved in the offense last Sunday, I feel like a play action pass would have been a great 1-on-1 match up. Maybe there's a reason he wasn't involved, maybe not. I don't know, but I do know this kid has some serious talent and it's worth giving him more than a couple of looks per game. My boy Des Clark had a few strong runs Sunday, although I think he dropped a pass near the sideline. The Bears have 2 great TEs with big play making ability, I think it's about we TEA time, eh gov'na?
I disagree, however, about the notion of trading Nathan Vasher. VASHER IS THE INTERCEPTOR! Didn't the Bears just sign him to a big contract? Would it even be possible to trade him? Nathan is such an asset on the field that it would be silly to give him up. I agree McBride looked great Sunday, but it was against the Oakland offense, and isn't McBride a 7th rounder? That would be taking a BIG gamble. CB is a premium position in Lovie's cover-2 scheme, and not to mention NFC North teams look to have a great batch of up and coming WRs - with the exception of Minnesota.
BA I think you make a good point about the inability of Cedric and the O- Line creating more than 3 yards per carry weighing heavily on the entire offense. Say what you want about Griese or Grossman, but if the Bears can't move the ball on the ground it won't matter who's at QB. I've always said the game always comes down to 3 key statistics: turnovers, time of possession and winning the line of scrimmage, and the last two statistics are heavily influenced by the offensive line and the running back.
Here's to winning two in a row next Sunday.
November 13, 2007
#64 Shady said . . ."Thrilling moments"????
Holy shit, get some perspective Jeff. The Bears-Raiders game was wretched. Grossman closes his eyes and chucks the ball up to an open receiver who faked out a third string cornerback and we get the terminology, "thrilling moments"??
November 13, 2007
#65 Mike said . . .I have to say it was pretty thrilling to see Grossman toss a game winner to Berrian, (I don't care who it's against) we haven't seen that much emotion from this team all year. Someone else mentioned it earlier, but that catch most definitely brought back memories of '06, a year to remember forever.
November 13, 2007
#66 Mike said . . .Yay for the Sex Cannon! Unleash the dragon!
November 13, 2007
#67 jeff said . . .Did I forget to mention that I like big hairy balls rattling against my chin....
Please take note.
November 13, 2007
#68 jeff said . . .thrilling moments: griese leading a team 97 to beat the eagles, grossman's touchdown pass after what he's gone through, the remarkable second half against green bay, the remarkable final minutes against minnesota in regulation, hester...hester...hester....if you don't find these things thrilling, mike, then why do you waste so much time on this website? for a 4-5 team, they've been kinda unforgettable.
November 13, 2007
#69 Rex Grossman said . . .and as for the grossman play. without question. if you didn't get excited when he completed that pass, mike, you're a fucking fraud. you didn't know who was covering bernard berrian. i didn't know who was covering bernard berrian. in the moment, amazing.
November 13, 2007
#70 BearDown1982 said . . .Oh you all know #69 had to be mine.
~Sexy Rexy~
November 13, 2007
#71 Jimbo said . . .Shady, I agree...Vash is the Intercepter for a reason..I only brought it up for arguments sake. Clearly, we don't know for sure if McBride will be a true player, but so far so good. I don't place too much value on how high a guy was drafted personally, but he certianly looks like a steal right nwo in round 7. The best teams seem to know how to trade some of their best players when they have a replacemt fill in...or to get the draft picks that will keep them successful. Look at the Pats...they lose a first round pick due to the cheating, but alas, they have another one anyways. amazing.
Premature nonetheless...I hope Vash comes back strong this season, and now that McBride has some experience under his belt, he can continue to contribute this season. Overall I hope we have some much needed INTs from our corners the rest of the year.
Anyone remember the last time one of our slot receivers caught a pass?
November 13, 2007
#72 Mike is retarded said . . .I'm not sure how anyone can say we should stick with Griese. Mariotti's article, not that anyone cares, makes the case to stick with Griese...
"He's more poised. He's more efficient," is the only real argument I could find in the article.
Griese has a 77 rating. A 77 rating doesn't say poised and it sure as shit doesn't say efficient. Look at the other QB's in the 70's. All of them save Eli is catching hell for sucking. Griese hasn't done squat for the Bears.
I'm with PO'ed on this one. I called for Griese. He sucks. Put Grossman back out there. At this point, what do we have to lose?
Our best to chance to win is with Grossman.
November 13, 2007
#73 jdawg said . . .19, 20 and 53 are all fake posts by fake fan Mike. If you're scoring at home.
November 13, 2007
#74 Rex Grossman said . . .Marriotti is wanting a little love from the SEX CANNON but is afraid to admit it.
the SEX CANNON won't even give him a reach-around.
November 13, 2007
#75 said . . .Is that Berrian? I think he's triple-covered. You know what? Fuck it. I'm throwing it downfield.
Yeah, I see Benson open on the flank. But fuck that. Dumpoff passes are for faggots. I'm fucking Sexy Rexy Grossman. I can get that ball in there. And, even if I can't, I bet I'll be able to pull it off the next go round. I like throwing the ball long. It makes my dick hard.
What's that? I should throw a quick slant? Fuck that. That's gay. Button hook? Gay. Flare out? Gay. Screen pass? Kevin Spacey gay. This is fucking football. You can't just expect wins to come to you. You can't massage that shit. You gotta grab that game by the throat and rape the ever-loving shit out of it. You think a 5-yard out is gonna win you a game? You're a pussy. This ain't John Shoop running this offense. Sexy Rexy's got the arm. The dragon. You gotta unleash the dragon.
Okay, I'm throwing it. Nice. Look how far it went. I look good. I bet I made that Raiders cheerleader wet her panties with that throw. She fucking wants me. I bet she likes it over a stair railing. I can hit that with 100% accuracy, my dear. Mmmmmm. I am delicious.
Oh shit. Interception. Again. Oh well. It still felt fucking great to throw that shit. Tell me that wasn't one of the prettiest passes you ever saw. You know what? Not only am I gonna throw it long the next time we hit the field. I'm gonna throw it even longer. Harder. You see that kid in wheelchair sitting in the end zone bleachers? I'm gonna nail him right between the fucking eyes with a Sexy Rexy fastball. Why? Because I can.
This is Rex Grossman we're talking about here. We're talking 210 lbs. of twisted steel and sex appeal. I'm not just a gunslinger. I'm a cumslinger. Throwing that ball long tells all the Rexettes that I am fucking out there. On the edge. Where I gotta be. The ladies love the danger. The unpredictability. Oh, maybe I'll tease them with a pretty touch pass every now and again. But then I'm gonna go right back to pumping that ball out for all it's worth. It tells them I throw like I fuck. That's how we do things in the sexy business.
Tell me you're not turned on right now. I am.
November 13, 2007
#76 Phil from SATX said . . .they should just play both griese and grossman. one plays the first half the other the second half. YES! less run cuz the bears have no RB.
November 13, 2007
#77 Pissed Off said . . .Jeff, you know I agree with you and the other Bearimists (haven't seen that good word in a while). There's no way a true Bear fan could not have gotten excited on that pass. And even though Griese did something just as exciting to Hester (maybe even more so, because for a few short moments it made us believe in him), at that point in the game it was a relief to see the Rexy long ball work the way it did many times last year.
Anytime the Bears win it's great. When they win with thrilling comeback heroics it's even more fun - even if that meant we weren't good before.
I'll say this - as I was watching this game and screaming at RT because it was obvious his two weeks to plan gave the team nothing, I was setting myself up for a Bear win by a Hester runback 0r a defensive turnover. I was saying to myself, if that happens, I am not going to be excited about this game at all - pleased with the win, yes, excited about movement forward, no.
We won this game on offense with a big play which we hadn't had for several games. We sealed the game with a defensive turnover which we also hadn't done in many games. We held the Raiders to 6 points and scored 17. The coaches actually looked very smart in giving Rex the 40% practice time which became very important - no way does Rex come in and not throw INTs if he hadn't had that prep.
Yes, this was ultimately a very exciting game, and one that made me very excited for the next one, the one that gets us to .500. But at this point, it better be Rex, not Griese, he's proven he's not necessarily the better QB and since there's no upside there whatsoever, to me it's a no-brainer.
Go Rex! Go Bears! Seahawks on short week! Very beatable - don't look at the results of Monday night - 49'ers worse than bad!
November 13, 2007
#78 Pissed Off said . . .number 44, 46 and 48 are not me.
November 13, 2007
#79 Pissed Off said . . .number 44, 46 and 48 from this thread were not me. I'm sure they were Mike though some of you bought it by your responses so I'd like an apology from those who thought they were me. Mike is having conversations with himself on here. MIKE JUST SHUT UP ALREADY. I've asked that in the last thread, dont use my screenname you pussy, just shut up, dont make up screen names so it looks like more people agree with you. You are a loser, stop posting. And yes that is a personal attack, so what. SHUT UP DOUCHEBAG! find a new blog or visit with you mom upstairs about your stupid thoughts.
November 13, 2007
#80 Mike is retarded said . . .Ok it looks like Shady and BA Baracus were the only ones who fell for posts 44, 46 and 48 being me. Thats OK
November 13, 2007
#81 Ed_in_CO said . . .Mr. Po'd that makes 6 fake posts by fake fan Mike yesterday. Documented as 19, 20, 44, 46 and 53. Let the record show.
November 13, 2007
#82 johnny said . . .Was anyone else really excited to see Rex come into the game, yet still secretly want Rex to break an ankle so we can see Orton in the game?
I wasn't at all surprised to see him fumble the first snap. It looked like a normal play for Rex.
I wasn't at all surprised to see him toss a 59 yard bomb to Berrian. It looked like a normal play for Rex.
Bring on the Seabirds!
November 13, 2007
I agree with the benching of cb......lovie smith needs to start looking for a running back besides ap and wolfe......take a look at green bay......they had no running at the begining of the season........now they are kicking some ass with a running back that didnt even get drafted out of notre dame......that running plays with balls because he wants to prove himself. maybe lovie should look into his scout teams and find a diamond in the rough........just give up on cb.......
November 14, 2007
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