The Associate Press quotes Sexy Rexy Grossman:
“I'd like to be back here if I'm wanted back here… I think you're always proving yourself, and I definitely would like to be in a situation anywhere where I'm competing for the starting job and show what I can do, and just kind of improve and take the experience that I've had throughout the last couple years and build upon that.�
(The headline below this on the ESPN homepage read 5 year-old descendant of Davy Crockett kills bear and is infinitely more interesting. But being that this isn’t dacrockblog.com, I’ll stick with Grossman.)
I’m not going to spend the next nine months writing about who should play quarterback for the Bears on opening day 2008. But since Rex made the comments, I’ll respond with a quick three-step plan right now to solidify the position for next season and leave the off-season to (unbelievably) more pressing matters:
Step One: Evaluate Orton
If Kyle plays well the next three weeks, he should be given a chance to compete in camp next summer; even if under the assumption he’s going to be in the third slot once again. If Orton isn’t any good, the Bears look to the draft to fill the third quarterback slot as I don’t see Matt Ryan, Brian Brohn, Andrew Woodson or Joltin' Joe Flacco being ready to start their first season in the league.
Step Two: Resign Rex (modestly)
Rex should begin the 2008 season as no less than the Bears backup quarterback. Not to sound like a broken record but Rex should be signed to a two or three year deal with incentives based upon his earning the starting role. He might be the best armed quarterback in the team’s history and he deserves a chance to develop in navy and burnt.
Step Three: Veteran Competitor
Why not make a trade for Chad Pennington? If you’re looking for the quasi-Rex, it’s Chad. He won’t make the throw down field but he’ll do a nice job not turning it over. It’d be a terrific camp battle – completely different players, different philosophies…etc. If not Chad, a repeat of the Griese situation can't happen. The only way a quality veteran will come into Chicago is if they’re given a chance to compete for the starting job.
And that's all from me on the topic. We'll take a look a look at The Monk, expecting very little and concern ourselves with 2008's quarterback once 2007 is over and done.
NOTE ON PETRINO LEAVING THE FALCONS:
This opens the door - according to Peter King and other sources - for the Falcons to bring in Mike Singletary, the man most believe would have gotten the job if Petrino turned it down. For some of us, that's incredibly disappointing. If Dick Jauron would have let Samurai join his staff (as the great Bear hoped) he may currently be the Bears head coach.
#2 AK said . . .I'm definetly hoping Orton shows enough be the #2 qb next season or even be given a shot to compete with Grossman for the number 1 job. I don't see a situation where he beats out Grossman, but if they hold at least a staged qb battle the masses will be satisfied. But they should end it early so it isn't constantly on the table after every incompletion.
The third guy should be someone the Bears scoop up off the scrap heap who has some potential.
I do not favor wasting a draft pick on a project guy that won't give you anything for 2-3 years. We have too many needs for that.
Conversely I don't favor over paying for another washed up veteran. And I absolutely disagree Jeff, with your idea of going after Chad Pennington.
Why on earth after living through half a season of a weak armed journeyman would you risk going with a guy with even more of an injury issue, and a much weaker arm? Pennington can't even throw the ball over 10 yards, he's the Steve Walsh of the current NFL. Mabey that isn't fair because he has gotten that way because of injury, but it is what it is.December 12, 2007
#3 Tone Capone from Jersey said . . .Orton doesn't stand a chance. There's no run game, there's no O-Line protection, there's insipid play-calling from RT and the defense isn't going to do him any favors like getting the ball back or stopping other teams from scoring. If anything, we won't get much of a chance to evaluate Orton at all if he's flat on his back every 4 plays. And if he coughs up the ball under this situation, everyone will be willing to throw him under a bus. Chicago is a horrible place to play QB.
But with that said, I think we'll see Grossman vs. Orton in training camp. I'm sure there is some team who'll take Griese off our hands. We sign a decent talent during the draft for QB so he can sit around as the #3 guy for a couple of years and hopefully become our #1 one day.
December 12, 2007
#4 Mike said . . .I agree with you Al regarding NOT bringing someone like Chad Pennington on board. We need a QB that can hit a streaking Berrian in stride (like Rex)...not someone who can barely throw pass the scrimmage line.
December 12, 2007
#5 PolygonHell said . . .What the Bears will do is bring back Rex Grossman. It's classic move by an organization that has its collective head up its ass and lives in denial on things. I'm not going to waste any more oxygen debating Grossman because the dumbfucks will bring him back. Hopefully though the Bears draft a QB in the second or third round. And for the first time in 40 eyars they actually pick the right fucking guy and who not even they can fuck up the development curve on.
Offensive tackle in the first round, running back and quarterback to follow in the second and third round, safety in the fourth round, defensive lineman in the fifth round, offensive lineman in the sixth and seventh round. And use free agency to pick up a decent offensive guard and wide receiver.
I'd rather suck on the exhaust pipe of my car then to see Chad Fucking Pennington in a Bear uniform.
December 12, 2007
#6 Al in WI said . . .I largely agree, but why bring in Penington with Griese under contract?
I think we'll be able to evaluate Orton to some extent in the next 3 starts, You just have to evaluate why the plays are breaking down and give him a break on the plays that aren't his fault.
Of course given the usual Chicago area reporting, he'll be written off in the press after the Vikings game if he doesn't excell. And it seems like the national media, just regurgitates what's written locally.
I think if we take a QB in the draft, it'll be day 2 or later, and it'll probably depends as much on who the OC is and what he thinks he has to work with in Grossman/Orton and Griese.
It's a tough read to guess at the Draft because a lot is going to depend on which of out free agents we loose. Having said that I think we'll likely spend a number of high picks to fill the whole at Safety and add try to add some depth to the defense and try and patch up the O-Line in free agency. As for Running back and QB I think it will come down to whoose available when, an although we might take one of them early, there's a good chance we might not see major changes at the positions next year.I'm not saying I agree with the philosophy, just what I expect to happen.
December 12, 2007
#7 Shady McBears Fan said . . .Here's what I'd do at the QB spot.
1. Re-sign Grossman. For all the reasons above, including the improvement he showed down the stretch.
2. Hope Orton is an option. Again agree with all that Jeff mentioned. I think he's a backup guy who you might be able to trust if he proves he can be competent. Again his rating in '05 was 59.
3. Sign a reclamation project; I believe that is Chris Simms. What the Bears need is another young player with some experience that could become a viable option long term but doesn't cost a draft pick or FA money needed at other positions. Simms has been around a few years but is still young enough to have a future. He took the Bucs to the playoffs and played well in a playoff game. So he is not inexperienced. But with time lost from injury and the mad science of John Gruden, he'll be available and he will be cheaper then the other options.
That's what I hope the Bears do this offseason.December 12, 2007
#8 Max said . . .No Chad Pennington. No way is he the answer...just please...no. I feel sorry for the jets because they have Chad Pennington. Having a 'nice' QB isn't going to work, the Bears need a good to great QB. Chris Simms is very interesting Al. I wouldn't mind signing him up, if it were a good price. Step one isn't so easy. Can Kyle Orton really be evaluated properly in these last few games? Shouldn't our expectations be pretty low based on what Lovie and Ron have told us in the past about Orton? And Rex... I don't know. Somehow this is like some high-school dating drama between Rex and Jerry.
"Well, I'd like to be back if you wanted me to."
Don't do it Jerry, you know how this story ends. You have to think with your head, not with your...heart.A QB needs to be selected in the draft whether Rex stays or goes. They don't need to use a 1st rounder on Ryan or anything, in fact I hope they don't, but at some point they need to draft a QB. If Joltin' Joe is there in the 3rd round, I say snatch him up. Obviously it doesn't matter who's at QB now. The offensive line and Ron Turner are preventing the offense from reaching any sort of consistency, running or throwing. Draft some OTs a DT and maybe a WR and tell Lovie and Ron to check their egos at the door in 2008.
December 12, 2007
#9 AfroCelt said . . .I swear to god, if Chad Pennington becomes a bear, i might shoot myself . . . i mean jesus, hes shane matthews reincarnated. im sorry for saying that name here but seriously, NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO CHAD PENNINGTON. . . . please football gods, show us some mercy and spare us from this weak armed, often injured, joke of a quarterback. I mean you wanna talk about having Zero expectations for a season, then signing this guy would gurantee it. . . .
No Chad Pennington.December 12, 2007
#10 Phil from SATX said . . .Is there any way to get a project quarterback out of rounds 3+? I dont remember any going that late.
December 12, 2007
#11 Phillip said . . .We're looking for two things from Orton in these three games - the quality of his decision-making, and the quality of his arm. There're some ancillary things too - is he mobile, can he move well in the pocket, does he take unnecessary risks. But mostly it's those first two.
The tough thing is you can probably get more on the positive side than negative. I could imagine seeing enough to think there's some upside there - but if he's bad, can you really throw him out based on 3 games? Maybe he needs to be really, really bad for the team to decide that he's not worth keeping around.
The one thing I feel sure of is that the Bears are not going into next year with these 3. I just think there will be too much pressure on them to make at least one change.
If I had to guess what happens, I'm guessing that Orton doesn't show much, a little good but more bad, and the BT re-signs Rex and keeps Griese but adds in the draft, and not too high either. Think about it - if you're Angelo and all your high profile high draft pick offensive players haven't panned out, wouldn't it be a lot lower risk to take a QB in the lower rounds, off the beaten path, and try to get Romo-lucky? (and I'm afraid Flacco's path will be a bit too beaten by the time we get to draft day - he'll end up going in the first round after all)
If that QB works out, Angelo will look like a genius and solidify his rep as finding talent in the lower rounds. If he doesn't, so what? It was a low pick, and he turns into Kyle Orton, riding the pine as a cheap #3 for a while.
From what I've seen about Pennington, I'd agree there's just a little too much Grease on that arm for me. If it was someone like Jeff Garcia (who I know is not available) that would make sense. Also a project like Simms or even Carr, although we all know that neither of these guys would get anything but killed under RT. But a new coordinator and a new line? Maybe. Still like Rex better than those two.
Looking forward to Sunday.
December 12, 2007
#12 Pissed Off said . . .As a long-time fan of Tony Shaloub, I'm all for having a QB whom we can nickname 'monk.' However, if the guy can't throw the ball, I don't care how much hair he has under his neck, give us Chad or Sex Cannon or Donovan "Chunky Soup" McNabb. At this point in the season, I'm all about the nicknames.
P.S. for anybody on the eastern seaboard, esp NYC: I'm leading a raiding party to Reading, PA for cases of Old Style sometime in the next two weeks. If you want in on the action, shoot me an email - you can find it on my website, or at least I think you can.
December 12, 2007
#13 Bill said . . .First, I want Rexy back. Then I dont give a shit who you bring in as competition for the starting job, Rex will have it locked up by week one. Bring in Pennington, who I dont mind, actually would LOVE to have as a backup, the guy has put up big numbers in his career when he's not hurt. He's a smart, efficient QB, I dont know why everyone is dumping on him?
We also need to get rid of Griese, I dont want him on the roster next year, no matter what. I will confirm this after week 17, or maybe sooner but we can probaly get rid of Orton too after the year is over. What I want to happen is have Rex back, sign a guy like Pennington or Simms someone mentioned, I dont care who and then lets draft one in the later rounds or if Orton shows something keep him around instead of drafting someone or instead of picking up a free agent.
Jeff, dont kid yourself, we'll all be talking about Rex and the QB position for the next nine months.....thats what we do. We might as well rename this thing "dabearsqbdebateblog.com".
I dont care where singletary is a head coach as long as its not here, for now that is. He's not seasoned enough to be a head coach in this league, coordinator at best in my opinion.
December 12, 2007
#14 Rancid said . . .Not sorry to see Singletary go to the Falcons. As someone said, he needs some head coaching experience. He'll be here eventually, I really believe that.
Thanks JB (in the prior thread) for bringing the class to order. (I am a part time college teacher by the way.)
We don't need another Brian Griese on our roster. That's what Chad would be. Or Chris Simms. (How many sons of good QBs can one team have anyway?)
Drafting a project in a later round sounds like a good idea, until you realize we have NOBODY who is qualified or capable of developing a QB. Don't you gall et a sense that Rex woudl be much better with a different coaching staff? (Everyone but Mike, that is.)
December 12, 2007
#15 Midway Monster said . . .I like Pennington as a backup over the Greasemaster. He would need to at least be given a shot at starting for him to sign. I think he will require that. I only see Pennington working as a backup for us. If we do re-sign BB we will have two downfield speed guys and it will be tough to start a QB that can't utilize them that way. However, he would be ideal as the backup QB that comes in to manage games.
I agree that Orton needs to become either the #2 guy (or in a competition for #1 if his play warrants it) or be let go. That 3rd spot should be for a guy who you have some hope for future greatness.
December 12, 2007
#16 jeff said . . .Hey guys... come take a look see into the 'Midway crystal ball". See- it says that the intelligent move is to resign Rex & draft/trade for more O-line help. Its obvious isn't it?
So... what does that mean for the 08 Bears? It mean that they will do the opposite and the Bears will let Rex go to a division rival (Vikes), get Chad for some good prospect, and draft nothing but defense.
-- Midway --
December 12, 2007
#17 23=rsandberg=mjordan=dhester said . . .rancid, you're the only one who seemed to understand the point of pennington. chd is a stablizing force at the qb spot - i've wtched almost every game he's plyed as a jet. he's good. he'll come into games and not turn it over. he won't win gmes with his arm but he certainly won't lose them. and we've lost games - three by my count - at quarterback this season. give us two of those games and we're playing for a playoff spot monday night.
December 12, 2007
#18 Phil from SATX said . . .I think chad is a waste of fu**ng space,how low can we possibly get?Get rid of greaseball,keep grossman & get a free agent,carr,simms sounds reasonable 2 compete.Either way ur forgetting we need 2 stablish the run 4 any sucess thats how this team is build & what it beleives in,So that instead of overpaying sum1 like mcnugget,get a quality RB 2 team up w/benson,like a dont know I heard turner da burners name a few times,but theres a guy in cleveland thats power,speed & very shifty named Jamal Lewis gonna be FA end of year.....Think of it 4 amin....What made us so succesful in 06-07 establishing the run w/ TJ & CB 2open up the bombs 2BB,now u team up jamal/turner w/ benson,FIX THE O-LINE,I guarantee we will be know as a hard core,pound it running team w/any combination of those 2
December 12, 2007
#19 Al in WI said . . .Here's the flaw in the Pennington argument. If you have weak noodled arm but low risk who won't throw INTs, you're still probably not putting up many points, and relying on your defense and special teams. There's two problems with that.
1) While we all have hopes of the Chicago Bears' defensive resurgence next year with a new safety and healthy corners and d linemen, that's far from a given. We may just work our way into a respectable defense, with dominance taking longer.
2) The days of winning with only defense and a low mistake, low points offense are over. The Patriots, Jets, and even the Cowboys have shown us that. You better bring more to the table than that if you want to go all the way.
I don't know that much about Pennington. If he's shown he can put up points, than he could be fine. But we are no longer in the position of simply needing a QB who doesn't make mistakes. We need a QB who can win us games with his arm and decision making. Sounds like Chad may have the decision making but not the arm.
He likely has a better arm than Grease either way. I think Grease's decision making was mostly good, but mind made checks that his arm couldn't cash.
December 12, 2007
#20 Heywood Jublomey said . . .Phil, you are right on with your take there. That's my thought exactly, we are no longer a team capable of winning games by just not making mistakes.
The one place I would disagree, is that Griese has a much stronger arm then Pennington. And that's saying something.
Jeff, I get your point about Pennington I just don't agree with it. At this point I'm done with washed up vets that suposedly bring stability. It just doesn't work, we've tried it dozens of times the last decade or so and it hasn't come close to working.
I'd love to have the trio of Rex, Orton, and Simms. You'd have three young players with upside, who also are somewhat experienced. You only need one of them to step up, and each would have the potential to be long term answers. Even if Pennington was ok, for how long would he be the guy? A season?December 12, 2007
#21 23=rsandberg=mjordan=dhester said . . .I believe the time has come to sell the farm for a long term solution at quarterback. How about we trade our entire defense for Manning?
I'm kidding only a little. I would be willing to part with any player, Hester and Urlacher included, to get a good quarterback.
December 12, 2007
#22 Rancid said . . .Trade 23...Ummm,NO!
December 12, 2007
#23 #23#23#23#23#23 said . . .jeff - I probably understand your view on Chad because I'm in NY as well and therefore he's been on the tube every Sunday (until he got the bench). From Phil and Als last remarks I also think some must have misread your post to think that you preferred him to Rex. I didn't read it that way.
I don't really like him as a starter but I think in an even, fair competition for the job Rex would win. That leaves Chad as the #2, which is exactly where he would fit in my mind. He is a much better backup option than BG. I don't even think it's close. Your number 2 should be a game manager. We've all been saying there aren't enough game winning QBs for every team to have one and now we think it's realistic for our starter and backup to be able to single-handedly win games. It just doesn't happen. BG is not a game manager. He has a lot bigger arm that Chad's, but Chad is better at not losing games. He's a good #2 in this league.
Of course if KO somehow looks good enough to be #2 or compete for #1, then I don't think we need to make a move like that.
December 12, 2007
#24 Phil from SATX said . . ....ANYTIME!
December 12, 2007
#25 Phil from SATX said . . .Let's have a rule - No Trade Clauses for any future HOF'er. Who would those be?
We have two:
Brian Urlacher
Devin HesterNoooooo, we're not trading Hester for no one. If we traded Hester for some great QB, that QB would probably have a career-ending injury in Game 3. And it would clearly be being directed from afar by Papa Bear Halas hurling thunderbolts.
December 12, 2007
#26 Rancid said . . .If we are talking about Pennington for BG, I don't understand the argument - especially since all appear to be saying he has a "substantially weaker" arm than BG?!?!? I wouldn't think that could be possible, unless we were talking about, oh I don't know, me?
That description sounds like a guy who could win games for you or lose games - not by throwing picks, maybe, but by not winning them when the D packs it in because they don't respect the long ball. And we have that already in BG - he can win one lose one. And BG's cheap and knows our shitty system.
At least BG made RT look stupid by claiming he was calling the plays on the game winning drive. That HAS to be worth SOMETHING.
December 12, 2007
#27 Willie from Chicago said . . .Phil - the reason for the weak arm is injury. BG's arm is naturally weak. Chad's arm is weak now because it has been ripped off and reattached repeatedly. The reason I prefer him to BG is that he is much smarter. He doesn't lose a lot of games with dumb picks. Give him decent field position and he'll get you a field goal anyway, sometimes a TD. But he hasn't thrown a bunch of red zone picks in his career. I am sick of seeing red zone picks. Again though, provided we do re-sign Rex, then if KO proves to at least be a competent #2, I don't want either Chad or BG. I want Rex, KO and a mid round prospect.
December 12, 2007
#28 jeff said . . .I agree with Phill on this one. Pennington would have been a great QB with a team like we had last year with a solid D and a good running back. But we are far from the Defense, O-Line, and running back we had last year. I say we can resign Grossman and get a very good reciever in FA. Orton can be our backup and maybe we can get a prospect in the 5th round and hopefuly get "Romo lucky".
Isnt Chad Johnson going to be a free agent next year? If he is then we should go after him (we will have to let go of some cap space in the process). But imagine having Chad Johnson as th 1 guy, Berrian as the 2, Muhammed as the 3, Bradley as the 4, and Hester coming in when ready. We would have the best recievers in the league. That will really open up our offense for Rex to light it up. I garentee that there will be a mismatch on every play with those 5 WRs. That will also open up the running game with the DBs and line backers playing back.
So we should keep Rex, get Ocho Cinco, and get a better line THEN we will be one of the best in the league. (Especially with a healthy D for the start of next year.)
December 12, 2007
#29 Willie from Chicago said . . .dont think you'll be able to afford chad and bernie...bernie's going to get pretty good money somewhere
December 12, 2007
#30 Willie from Chicago said . . .Guys next year we are playing a really easy schedule.
We are playing:
Atlanta W
Saints W
Bucs L
Panthers W
Colts L
Jags L
Texans W
Titans W
NFC North 3-3
1 team from the NFC West: probably Arizona or 49ers W1 team from the NFC East: probably Skins or Giants W
Now looking at this schedule I think we can do better than the brutal schedule we have this year. Now, if we get Mike Brown back, keep Rex fix the line a bit and get a big play WR (Chad Johnson) then we have a good chance to win the division and probably finish at 10-6 or 11-5. Next year is our year.
And who knows if we get REALLY lucky we can sneak into the playoffs this year.
I think we should invest in a bunch of good backups on the defense.
Thats what we've gotta do for next year. To make the playoffs against these teams
December 12, 2007
#31 Bart Start said . . .Jeff, so is Chad going to be a FA this year?
If so I would take Chad ove BB. I would like both tho.
December 12, 2007
#32 AK said . . .Hey Bears fans, you havn't had a QB since Sid Luckman, something like 60 years ago, Michael Vick will be back in 23 months!
December 12, 2007
#33 Max said . . .No no no no no no no! No more washed up journeyman "veterans." Keep Rex, evaluate Orton (and dump him quick if he's bad) and sign a new guy to groom for the future. No more limp dicking around with useless baggage at the QB position.
December 12, 2007
#34 Max said . . .Romo lucky??? Hell guys, if your gonna go that far, we may as well hope for "Brady Lucky" cause he was a 6th round pick AND a super bowl winner.
When i first looked over this thread and comments, it made me pissed. I was heated, i was angry, i was frustrated.
WE ARE THE CHICAGO BEARS!!! we havent been able to get a winning quarterback in ANY ROUND of ANY DRAFT. (maybe, hopefully, eventually? rex) Why all the sudden the idea that we can get lucky in the late rounds. Orton was a 4th round pick. And ya know what, call me crazy, but i think hes good enough to be our number 2. And if thats the case, i suppose we should draft a QB cause i certainly dont want another half decent veteran QB who can no longer pass the ball. I am sick and tired of this crap. Thats why i was willing to shell out big bucks for Derek Anderson. Hes young, strong armed and can avoid the rush. not to mention he is proven to be good, something the bears no absolutely nothing about at that position.
But, as yall pointed out correctly, we need to spend money on the O-Line otherwise it doesnt matter who we have taking the snaps cause theyd probably be decapitated. So no DA, too expensive. We should not sign McNabb, itd be like Kordell Stewart all over again. And please no Pennington cause all he reminds me of is Shane Matthews.
Which leaves us back to what we have now or the draft. With all the pressure on the front office to do something, i am assuming we will draft a QB in the late rounds and get rid of Orton or Griese. (my bet is Griese).
And this is why i didnt leave a comment right after reading this thread. It would have been rash, it wouldnt have made alot of sense (not that this rambling did either) and in the end, i just agreed with most of you. . . its just so damn depressing to be looking at another late round, QB draft pick and have that sinking feeling in the bottom of your stomach cause it reminds you of all the botched drafts and leaves little hope for this new guys future
December 12, 2007
#35 Chi-Town Joe said . . ."KNOW absolutely nothing about at that position"
even when ive calmed down i cant spell to save my life
December 12, 2007
#36 Tone Capone from Jersey said . . .Replying to AK's post earlier and anyone who agreed with him:
"Orton doesn't stand a chance. There's no run game, there's no O-Line protection, there's insipid play-calling from RT and the defense isn't going to do him any favors like getting the ball back or stopping other teams from scoring."
How is this different than it was for Grossman and Griese? Why is that such a huge deal now that our supposedly lesser QB is going to be under the lights (should it be a night game or in a dome of course)?
It isn't.
With that being said, I agree he will be under much more pressure because he is a last resort of sorts. Here is where I rag on our O-line... I haven't seen more than one good pocket a game this year, if even that. When they finally DO make that good block, it's so miraculous. It's all I can take my eyes off. The heavenly should-be-more-frequent perfect pocket distracts me from the play itself. Even if we make a 99-yard, 11 in TD on that play, all I'll be able to talk about is the pocket. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I really wish that our O-line will get more motivated, perform better on the field. They have the potential sitting there. I know it. You see it on all those heavenly should-be-more-frequent perfect pocket plays. I want to be able to take my eyes off of that. Stop staring in amazement. That's all I wanted to say. (JUST)
Go Bears.December 12, 2007
#37 Windy City Packer Fan said . . .Listen FART START....should'nt you be somewhere (other than HERE) making yourself some cheese with that goat milk you got in da fridge!
This is BEAR COUNTRY CHEESE HEAD!!
December 13, 2007
#38 Heywood Jublomey said . . .How did the o-line that took you to the Superbowl last year all of a sudden become the scapegoat for the season?
(See Coach Harry Hiestand and the bio on Asst. Coach Luke Butkus)
I'm sorry, I've got to air this one after the encounter that I had with one of your bretheren this weekend. I was told that the Packers are doing what they are doing this year with 'smoke and mirrors.' I'm sure all of you agree on that point. I will wait until the next couple of seasons to comment on that one. My reply was that the Bears did the same thing last year. I was corrected by the Bears fan as he replied, you mean 2 years ago.
Good/Great teams/programs don't go from the best in the conference to nothing in one year. The decent from competing as one of teh best is usually the same as the ascension to the top. The Bears made it pretty quick from 2004-06; now they are coming back to earth with a big thud.
No, this is not a trash-talking-we're-better-than-you rant...I remember the many horrific years we endured in the 70's and 80's. I am happy that true fans, the ones who don't spew venom and cheap comments to their rivals were able to enjoy the last couple of years. I do feel bad that good fans (like Bill and others) need to be talking about core personnel players one year removed from the Superbowl.
After reading today's tribune, Rex sounded like a guy who is headed out of town, the newly signed tackle (Kennedy) talked about how his production over the years was everybody else's fault but his, and that Dave Toub has started shopping his name for head coaching jobs. You guys (and ladies) do not deserve this organization. I'm telling you, get everybody together, raise the funds and buy the team from those McCaskeys.
Peace out....happy Festivus.
December 13, 2007
#39 WCPF said . . .totally off-topic, but is it possible to find a t-shirt that was made before the super bowl in 2007 and celebrated a potential bears victory? like a t-shirt that says "bears 2007 super bowl champs" or something like that? I know they print up that kind of stuff for both teams to be prepared.
December 13, 2007
#40 WCPF said . . .Bart, come on with the comments. Let's be smarter than that. We can have objective, meaningful banter with the rivals without lowering our comments to what they were when we were 7 years old on the playground.
December 13, 2007
#41 Tone Capone from Jersey said . . .Heywood (great name, by the way), I saw a story on the local (Chicago) news shortly after the Superbowl. The NFL sends all of those items to an organization that donates them to less fortunate people overseas.
See this article:
Although, in a related topic, I purchased a 'Rose Bowl Champs' hat from the Northwestern equipment mgr. in 1996.
December 13, 2007
#42 craig said . . .That is very interesting WCPF. I always wanted to know what happens to that stuff.
December 13, 2007
#43 Jessica said . . .Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Pennington. Please.
December 14, 2007
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January 28, 2008
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January 28, 2008
Here at DaBearsBlog, you are free to kill us or the Bears as you so wish. You are not free, however, to be an asshole. So if you spew racism or ill-meaning foul language (cursing about football is just fine) or anything of that ilk, your comments ain't gonna last long, jerk.