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Friday, December 7, 2007 | Jeff

The Bears season ended with a glorious thump last night as Lovie's bumbling band of misfits false started their way into an early offseason. Cris Collinsworth called them unprofessional. Lovie looked lost. Ron Turner called a Ron Turner game, not realizing the effectiveness of a screen pass against the blitz until the final drive when he absolutely couldn't afford to call them.

Forget it. 'Tis done. Wayne, Brian, the Reverend and all the ladies of Josie Woods raised their glasses with me to toast the 2007 Chicago Bears. We called it an Irish wake. Somehow a Super Bowl team fell apart in an off-season. If you can explain it, you're a smarter man than I. When we stop the run, we can't stop the pass. When we stop the pass, they run right through us. Watching the offense has eery similarities to the late 90s.

The next game that matters is September 2008 and the Bears must spend the next three games operating with that mentality. We'll have plenty of time to discuss the issues. Yes, I favor re-signing Bernard Berrian - who is finally starting to play like a #1. Yes, I think they must get a contract extension done with Lance Briggs. But the Bears need a quarterback. And if Grossman's injury is as serious as it looked, its time they discover what they have in Kyle Orton.

They have three games to see. No more Brian Griese. Kyle earned this kind of chance two years ago and Lovie and co. should put him on the field.

Comments

#1 B.A. Baracus said . . .

Bears The are officially done...

Sorry, it looks like the Bears false started in my opening sentence. Hmm...

Poor coaching, poor execution and way too many penalties. It is almost inexplicable why the Bears defense is so bad - injuries aside. Depsite the fact that they stuffed the run, they let a career back up carve them up. Absolutely ridiculous.

As for Orton, I certainly hope Smith has the brains and the BALLS to play him. However, given the coach's and upper managment's track record, nothing will surprise me.

December 7, 2007

#2 Gin said . . .

Fire the coaches before getting a QB. All of them. Stubborn bastards. I watched the game with my roommate who barely knows football and even he was questioning what we were doing. They're clueless. Fire them all. I hate them

December 7, 2007

#3 Phillip said . . .

LOL Baracus, nice false start bit. It was a sober evening on the UWS, but it's games (and SEASONS) like this that help you realize that while we love our Bears, we love the camaraderie even more - because that's what helps us through seasons like this. I had fun last night because I was with good friends and because I got to scream at a glowing hunk of overpriced korean plastic and glass and silicon - not because I thought my yelling and ranting would somehow be transmitted 230 miles away, across the Potomac and into Lovie Smith's headset, but because yelling with 120 other people is fun.

Here's to 2008, to a fresh start in September, to a good draft position, and to everybody who makes the trek through 20-degree weather worth it. Bear Down. Now let's start getting ready for the Cubbies! 2008 is our year!

December 7, 2007

#4 Bear Fan In Minnesota said . . .

After this game we need to give the coaches a break and admit that they can only do so much. They can't go out and hold your hand and say wait for the count and then go. They can't go out on the field and hold your hand when time is running out and say run out of bounds. They can't go out on the field and say run the route this way and then you will be in position to catch the ball. They can't go out and say see that big clock in the end zone? That's called the play clock. When it reaches 0 and you haven't snapped the ball that's a penalty. This list could go on and on. The bottom line is this is why it's called PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL! As much as I can't stand Chris Colinsworth he hit the nail on the head. This team was playing very UN-PROFESSIONAL! It was embarrassing! That's right my fellow Bears fans...THE BEARS ARE NOT WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE! At least not this year. We thought they were a team that controlled the line of scrimmage and the clock by running the ball down their opponents throat for 4-5 yards. They are not. We thought they were a team whose defense prided themselves on shutting down even the most elite offenses and taking the ball away at will. They are not. Instead this team gives up ridiculous yards to a has been quarterback and one of the lightest offensive lines in the league. We thought they were a team who knew when it was time to get angry and rip someones head off. They are not. We thought they were number one in special teams in the league. They are not. The answers to the Bears woes are not found in the QB...they are not found in the coaching staff...They are found in the identity of what it means to be a Chicago Bear and do what we do well. Run the ball down the throats of our defenders, dominate on defense and turn special teams into an art form by scoring at will. Don't worry though. The tradition is not dead. We will rise again and we will be back. I don't know how and I don't know when. BUT OUR DAY WILL COME!

December 7, 2007

#5 Megan said . . .

Hey, who was the security guard that tackled that fan running on the field? Can we hire him to play defense??

Megan

December 7, 2007

#6 Al in WI said . . .

In any normal situation getting your team to the Super Bowl is enough to buy a coach another 3 years to get the team back.
However this is not a normal situation. The Bears lost that super bowl largely because of coaching. And in the aftermath of every jesse jackson wanna be shilling for Lovie's new contract, he decided to strike out and remake the defensive coaching staff. "Trust me," he lectured us, he's earned it.
Well his signature defense has imploded under the direction of his right hand man. His offense which should have improved has been a dysmal failure. Even the special teams can't manage to have 2 straight games of satisfactory play.
Problems that existed in week one haven't been fixed at all and still exsist today.
Anyone looking at the situation can see the Lovie era is headed downhill in a hurry.
But what makes this a must move is the fact that an opportunity exists to land a once in a lifetime coach. Bill Cowher, Mike Singletary, are Mike Holmgren are all probably available.
The move needs to be made.

December 7, 2007

#7 jeff said . . .

phillip, i hear you. we had a blast at josie woods last night.

December 7, 2007

#8 Pissed Off said . . .

The bears have been done for weeks. To be honest I'm not even that upset over last night because I knew what a shitty team we've been all year. It just finally proved the inevitable this year.

Regarding the Orton thing I say yes, start him but only if Rex is not good to go. If Rex is healthy enough, I want him to play out and play for that contract. It will make watching games more exciting. I think if we had Rex last night we MAY have won. With BG we had zero chance. Normally I like my chances with BG Vs Todd Collins but not last night. BG sucks, bad.

I wanted to keep the hope alive but I knew deep down this team was done. Nice to see Wolfe get some work but why cant they rotate a little better instead of give AP the entire first 3 quarters and then Wolfe the whole 4th. Lets get a little rotation going here. But thats how this team operates....on stupidity.

December 7, 2007

#9 jeff said . . .

po'd, i agree. but i dont think rex is playing again this year. campbell is out for the year and the eyeball test made rex's injury look much, much worse.

December 7, 2007

#10 Rancid said . . .

From watching it over and over, I see no way that Rex plays again. Not unless he is the secret love child of Gumby because his knee isn't supposed to bend that way. I hope to see Orton. I then hope that Orton proves himself to be a reliable trustworthy backup allowing us to discard BG. I also heavily agree with PO that Rex would have possibly won the game. I can think of 3 throws to Olsen alone (2 red zone) where BG threw completely uncatchable balls. After seeing the newer post benching version of Rex and the TD throw to Berrian last week, I have to believe we'd have had more points on the board with him in there.

December 7, 2007

#11 Phillip said . . .

Hey Jeff, totally off-topic, but does Josie Woods do Cubs games?

December 7, 2007

#12 Mike said . . .

What do you do from here? You rebuild, that's what you do.

1. The offensive line needs total reconstruction
2. There is SCREAMING need for a running back
3. Tommie Harris and Brian Urlacher are playing like shadows of their former selves
4. There is SCREAMING need for improvement at safety
5. There is SCREAMING need for a defensive tackle

You don't fix structural problems like this "on the fly." There isn't one or two "silver bullet" solutions. Rather the Bears need to do what Green Bay and Tennessee did a few years ago after both had good successful runs but started experiencing problems. The whacked a bunch of veterans and let guys on the lines leave via free agency. Then they smartly worked to rebuild via introducing young talent.

I will be pissed if we live another season in denial and clinging on by our fingernails hoping to be 9-7. I'm more interested in legitimately getting better. Otherwise we are staring a vicious cycle of frustrating mediocrity.

December 7, 2007

#13 Phil from SATX said . . .

Seriously, I think we've seen enough from Rex already to re-sign him as long as that injury is not career-threatening, and we probably did just save a few millions if that's what we want to do. Start Orton - at the very least you're showcasing trade bait in a league that is woefully short on quarterbacks.

Regarding coaching, everyone says Mike Singletary, Mike Singletary - now I love the guy 100%, don't get me wrong, he'll always have a place in my heart, but do we know yet whether he's any good as a coach? And if he is good as a coach, is he ready to be a head coach? I don't think he's been coaching for that many years (but I could be wrong).

I don't think Singletary's the answer, but there IS an answer:

BILL FREAKING COWHER

Absolutely MADE for the Chicago Bears. There could be no better fit.

Oh please please please please please please

Show us some love, McCaskeys! (sorry we insisted on you extending Lovie in the offseason, our bad, go ahead and raise ticket prices if you must, but please please please please please)

BILL COWHBR FOR THE CHICAGO BEARS VACANT HEAD COACHING POSITION!!!!

December 7, 2007

#14 Mike said . . .

The "coaching" is down the list of problems facing this football club. It's crisis in talent on the offense and defense that is the pisser. Yes the coaching needs to improve. Especially Lovie and Babich, because they are too inflexible with their "cover 2" scheme. But don't be naive enough to automatically default to pointing to the coaches. Good well-informed football fans should know better.

Honestly, I don't expect Ron Turner or Bob Babich to be gone. Lovie won't fire them and Angelo won't force the issue on a head coach who does have political capital having taken this team to the Super Bowl last year. So I'm not going to worry about Turner or Babich because it won't do a darn bit of good.

The onus is on Lovie and Angelo to end denial and begin a legitimate rebuilding program.

December 7, 2007

#15 Bill said . . .

Guys (and gals) - Lovie will NOT be fired. We have to quit wishing for that. The best we can hope for is accountability for his "trust me" crap he fed us after making so many changes to a winning team.

I also suggest he not look at specific details and look at th bigger picture. Forget individual plays and injuries and step back. Both the offense and the defense is significantly WORSE than last year. The penalties all year are inexcusable; the poor tackling is inexcusable.

So who is to blame? Seriously, how many good corrdinatirs have offenses or defenses in the bottom third of the league? I assume NONE. They take what they have and divise schemes to make them successful. Not us - we do things like have Tommie Harris on ONE GOOD LEG drop into coverage!!??!!!??

The play calling is downright DUMB (not using draws or screens to counter the blitz until we needed two scores at the end.) We ALL could do better dialing up plays on Madden.

Bright spot - Devin will have an off-season to learn the position. He will be good.

Berrian is playing for his contract. Let some other team over-pay him.

Sign Briggs. Sign Grossman to a short incentive filled contract. Get a QB in the mid rounds in the draft.

But here's my sense after follwing them since the mid-60s. Lovie will be given another year or two. Then he WILL be fired. Probably Angelo too. The team won't be sold anytime time soon. We will suffer from some other organizational screw up with Mikey back involved somehow. I suspect the abberation of last year came from a perfect storm of a weak NFC, an amazing Hester, Urlachers's last good year, the line's last decent year, the corners being great, and Briggs being Briggs. It was enough, but most of that is gone and can't be replaced easily.

December 7, 2007

#16 jdawg said . . .

The O-line has been a cancer on this team all year and last night it became terminal. There better be at least 2 new starters by September 08 for there to be any hope at all.

December 7, 2007

#17 Bill said . . .

Mike - Lovie's capital is all spent. He used it ALL up. He dumbly made an arrogant statement of trusting him and the results speak for themselves. We can disagree on this (obviously) but I think Angelo (who's rep is on the line too) will insist some major change be made.

December 7, 2007

#18 Rancid said . . .

I say we take a chance on Panthers LT Travelle Wharton.

The Good - He plays solid and looked very good protecting Delhomme the last couple years. He's young. His rookie contract is expiring.

The Bad - He has been IR all year after tearing his ACL and MCL. This should hurt his value, and so he should be affordable. We gamble that he recovers fully, and move Tait back to RT.

I know it's a gamble but LT are so difficult to find that the risk of him not recovering is worth the chance of landing a young one who is very good and can fill that spot for quite a while.

December 7, 2007

#19 jeff said . . .

mike, other than the seahawks of last year - the last six super bowl losers failed to make the playoffs the next year. there's a hangover and its being substantiated by history...the hawks played in an awful division last year and won it by default. i think the bears need re-construction but they'll be playing a last place schedule in 2008...

December 7, 2007

#20 Ram in san anton said . . .

Last night was the most embarassing game I've ever seen of the Bears! I love my Bears, and will not give up on them, but something gotta give, and that would have to be the Mc Kaskie, they are going to need to open the old wallet and spend some money. We have lost the growl and we need to get it back before we become the laughing stock of the NFL. Shake the bad players and get some freaking new talent! Get a coach the shows some kind of passion for the game, I'm tired of them showing Lovie looking like somebody just took his candie away from him. I think Bill cowher is a perfect fit, he likes screaming and yelling, lets start the chase! I agree with Phil In SATX

December 7, 2007

#21 Mike said . . .

Bill, all I know is that there is zero chance Lovie Smith will be dismissed. And the only way that Ron Turner and Bob Babich won't be back is if Lovie himself comes to the conclusion to get rid of one or both. Personally, I think it is very unlikely that Lovie will get rid of either coordinator. Therefore I can't waste my energy on wallowing and hollering on the subject because it is pointless and non-productive.

December 7, 2007

#22 Mike said . . .

Bill, all I know is that there is zero chance Lovie Smith will be dismissed. And the only way that Ron Turner and Bob Babich won't be back is if Lovie himself comes to the conclusion to get rid of one or both. Personally, I think it is very unlikely that Lovie will get rid of either coordinator. Therefore I can't waste my energy on wallowing and hollering on the subject because it is pointless and non-productive.

December 7, 2007

#23 Mike said . . .

So Jeff, I'm supposed to be excited for 2008 because we will be playing a last place schedule?? That's is really scrapping the bottom of the rationalization (and denial) barrel.

Parity has become king in the NFL, the New England Patriots notwithstanding. Therefore the importance of a first place schedule versus a last place schedule has been significantly deluded.

The Bears need to stop the denial game and begin a conscious rebuilding program. Starting with the offensive line and defensive tackle.

December 7, 2007

#24 Phil from SATX said . . .

Mike, you're full of crap.

Bill, great posts, as usual. I agree that firing Lovie is extremely unlikely to happen, just as I agree that there is starting to be an inevitability about his near-term departure, in 1-2 years.

But you're right about this: if the head coach is ultimately deemed not responsible for this abomination of season, then the coordinators damn well better be.

And I hope that those projecting heat on Angelo are right, because I do trust him way more than our current coaching staff. If there's heat, he may be incented to call for some drastic changes - if not at the head coach position this year, at least at the coordinators.

So Kreutz called out his line, at this late date? Did anyone witness the aftermath, which had to be Harry Hiestand running into the huddle saying "no no no no no no, guys, don't listen to Kreutz, it's NOT OUR FAULT."

By God that guy better be gone next year. Could you ever imagine worse line play than we've had this year? Could anyone make a case for our line not being THE WORST LINE IN THE LEAGUE, 32 OUT OF 32?

December 7, 2007

#25 jeff said . . .

mike, they went to the super bowl last year. in this calendar year. they don't need to re-build. the titans rebuilt themselves to what? they're not going to playoffs either. you know who is going to playoffs...good quarterbacks. you know who wins championships? good quarterbacks. we need a damn quarterback.

December 7, 2007

#26 Rancid said . . .

My info on Wharton was bad. He spent last year on IR and is playing this year. Not sure if this makes him a better option or a worse one.

December 7, 2007

#27 Bill said . . .

Mike - as I posted earlier, I agree there is 0 chance Lovie is gone. And I think it woudl be irresponsible to fire him after an extension - after all, who in their right mind woudl take a job knowing one bad year gets you fired? You may be right on the corrdinators staying; you have a point in saying it's non-productive to talk about it - but for me at least it's my venting. Sports can be weird in that a situation like this can actually cause some distress when I have no control at all and in any rational way of thinking it really doesn't matter. So venting saying "heads will roll" makes it a bit more tolerable. I typically don't care this much, but last year rasied my expectations and now I have to get them back to normal Bear level.

December 7, 2007

#28 Rancid said . . .

Right or wrong (and it's proabably wrong) Lovie stays. IT's just too bad that this is the year that Cowher is available. Maybe he likes his commentator gig and will wait another year. Something has to be done though. Somebody has to take the fall here and the logical target is RT. He has done with worst job with the least excuses. He must die.

December 7, 2007

#29 Bill said . . .

By the way, the "last place schedule" is of very minor impact. Only two games will be different for us compared to the rest of the division. And aspointed out - those two teams coudl be significantly better next year, while the different two teams that any of our divsion rivals play may be worst.

I heard last night what I suspected - using this season's records, our schedule is/was one of the toughest. That's what I hate about figuring out strength of schedule before the season starts. We didn't get to play last year's Lions or Vikings - we had to play this year's versions. And they didn't have to play last year's Bears - they got to play this year's inferior version.

December 7, 2007

#30 Pissed Off said . . .

I agree with Phil, Singletary is not ready to be a head coach, I dont know if he'd do any good.

And yes Jeff based on the eyeball test Rex is done. I hope he's back next year though, I REALLY DO! I dont want him going out as a bear like this.

December 7, 2007

#31 Pissed Off said . . .

Did you guys hear on the game last night that the Bears had the toughest or one of the top two toughest (with the skins) schedules this year? Plus our division doesnt suck (unlike the hawks last year) and thats why we arent in the playoffs on this superbowl hangover year.

December 7, 2007

#32 Mike said . . .

I don't like Ron Turner either. But in defense of the schmuck, LOOK at the offensive line and running back situation he has had to work with. It doesnt' get more pathetic. The line is REAL, REAL BAD (as evidenced yet again versus the "mighty" Redskins) and Ced Benson, Adrian Peterson and Garrett Wolfe (go NIU) are probably the worst RB triumvirate in the NFL.

Like I said before, Lovie isnt' going to fire Ron Turner. And keep in mind also that Virginia McCaskey has a close relationship with Turner. He'll be back unless some dope college football program names him their new head football coach and gives him another chance to run a program into the ground.

So....the PRODUCTIVE exercise is to think about how the Bears can rebuild the offensive line and who can be acquired via the draft or otherwise to take over at running back. Or to focus on the multitude of needs on defense. And did I mention that Rex Grossman is awful and needs replacing too?

December 7, 2007

#33 Unforgiven said . . .

As a Bears fan for 40 years or so, it would be safe to say in all that time i have never been more disgusted with a team than this one.

How did this team completely crash & burn in one year? The O line is horrible,not even close to mediocre.

The defense lost a ton of talent due to injury so to expect them to dominate like last year is/was unreasonable.

I was sad to see Rex go down last night, i think he has shown since his benching that he can play. The pounding he has taken the last few games shows me he is much tougher than i thought.

It is time to see if Orton can play. It is time to sit Harris and let him heal, same with Urlacher.
Lovie aint going nowhere a year after a S.B. I think that after watching this team minus Cedric Benson it really does'nt matter who we have in the backfield there is no place to run

There is some hope it's called next year, free agency and the draft. The Pack,and theVikes are much improved in one year, why not us?

December 7, 2007

#34 Mike said . . .

Agreed that Tommie Harris and Brian Urlacher should sit the remainder of the season to heal.

December 7, 2007

#35 Duff Diggler said . . .

There is soooooo much to talk about.... soooooo many parts of this team need fixed.... This is the way I see it....
1st and foremost, DON'T SIGN BRIGGS! I'll tell you why.... Ok, I know he's great.... and I know Urlacher might never be as dominant as he once was.... but the bears, in all their glory, are 29th in defence (with Briggs)! So we would have to tie up another 20+ million $s in a linebacker position. For a 29th ranked defense with Briggs, you could sign anybody, and use that money on any of our many other holes and give to someone that actually wants to be there. We can't get much worse than 29th.... Next, get a 7th rounder for Archeleta (if we can....). Put Vasher on IR immediately! Babich and Turner need to go. Same for Tait and Miller on the O line. Cross train Idonije to be a tackle. It worked very well with Big Cat Williams, and he has the size, strength, and mean streak for the job. Start Orton now!!! Somebody give Lovie directions to get to the game. Sign Hester and lock him up until he's eligable for social security! Also, be less predictable when using him on offense. Ask Fred Smoot where he thinks the ball might go when Devin checks into the game 1 every 15-20 plays.... See if he can throw the ball..... Get Wolfe more involved.... Someone pull the Cedric Benson mask off of Ricky Williams and have him piss in a cup.... Show Berrian the money...... I can go on and on...... but let me just say this.... If we do decide to keep Briggs, i'm ok with it on four conditions... 1. Slap a restraining order on Drew Rosenhouse for 1,000 feet from Halas Hall....Olsen will be ok
2. Move him to the middle...then he could actually earn the $, Urlacher would complement him well from the outside
3. Use some of that $ to hire a Lambo driver...
and 4. he must want to be there!!!!
...again I can go on and on... i don't even know if I've metioned the name Grossman....what an enigma that is.... all i know is at the end of the day, i'm left crying in my beer again.....it makes it hard to spell...

December 7, 2007

#36 Mike said . . .

NOT ONE OF YOU would in your worst nightmare have predicted the Bears would be 5-8 right now. Nor would you have predicted anything less than UTTER DOMINANCE by the defense. And none of you would have predicted the success of Green Bay and the ascension of Minnesota and Detroit.

If the reality of this season hasn't awakened you to the need to stop living in denial and REBUILD, then there is no hope for you. None, nada, zip. Calls to fire Ron Turner, wait until next year and the "benefit" of a last place scheule, etc. are STATEMENTS of fans who are living in denial.

December 7, 2007

#37 Phil from SATX said . . .

Duff, I enjoyed that, and amazingly I agreed with nearly every thing you said - still want Briggs but you make a great point about money and our D - but I still maintain that if this D was healthy AND we had a new safety (assuming Mike B's days are over) we will certainly NOT expect to be in the bottom of D next year. Still intrigued with the concept of BU at safety, then you'd HAVE to keep Briggs - but that's probably a pipe dream - these guys are so far away from thinking outside the box, they don't even know they're in one. (In Gary Larsen's cartoon they'd be the cat with the empty balloon over their heads).

Also disagree about Berrian - guys, don't get seduced by a few good catches. This guy had NO EXCUSE for a way under-achieving year this year. He could develop into a great receiver but he took a HUGE step backward this year. I don't mind keeping him on the team but he is NOT WORTH THE HUGE BUCKS - we can do better.

Great post Duff, stick around.

December 7, 2007

#38 beardown1982 said . . .

Well, last night made it official...not that many of us who have watched the Bears team this year didn't know anyways...but the season is essentially over. This is what I think the Bears should do with the rest of this season.

1. Sit Tommie Harris, Brian Urlacher, and Vasher the rest of the season. No sense in playing them at this point...especially Urch and Tommie. They are the two most important players on our defense, and we need them 100% ready to go for 2008. Although, if Vash is healthy enough...play him at corner and start McBride at nickel back...let's see how he is covering the slot. I've been unhappy with Ricky Manning this year, and wouldn't mind seeing him go if at all possible.

2. Start Orton at QB the last 3 games. Rex showed some promise, but we need to know what we have in Orton before heading into the off-season. (especially with that horrific injury, can Rex and Mike Brown ever have any luck?)

3. Give Hass a roster spot. We gave him a spot, let's see what he can do. Yeah, he is slow, but why is a receiver on our team if he can't even get in on special teams...play him, now.

4. Beat Green Bay. It's still the oldest rivalry in the NFL...and this game always mean something. Plus, I'll be there, and want to see the Bears beat the Packers at least once in my lifetime. :o)

December 7, 2007

#39 Decatur Staley # 7 said . . .

Start Orton?Why get that guy killed behind that line.You thought they blitz alot with RG & BG in the game.
I like to see Neckbeard play but not to see him get hurt,He deserves better than that.

December 7, 2007

#40 jeff said . . .

i'll say one thing. the wolfe looked like a leon washington-type talent and he should be standing next to devin on kick returns and be heavily involved in a screen game.

December 7, 2007

#41 Decatur Staley # 7 said . . .

Interesting Chris called out Wolfe an said"he looks like a guy playing with heart,an a sense to win"

December 7, 2007

#42 Decatur Staleys #7 said . . .

Ouch!

When Marshall Faulk looks at the Bears' running game, the former NFL star sees some positives — with Adrian Peterson, not Cedric Benson. "I really like [Peterson]," said Faulk, an analyst for the NFL Network.

"I think that he's a much better fit. I think, if he's given the opportunity to, and they allow him to mess up and make the mistakes of a first-round pick, he could become a really good back in this league."

Faulk wasn't so complimentary of Benson, who broke his leg against the Broncos.

"Last year when Cedric was in the game, I just didn't see it," Faulk said. "Every back gives you a flash of what they can do if they attain the little things that you have to know about running the ball in this league. I just never saw that from him.

"With the quarterback situation being shaky this season, they were basically relying on him to get them through games.

"He just didn't have the experience and skill-set to carry a team. ... He's a guy you can put in there as a changeup. But to just be the guy, I don't think that's him, from what I've seen."

December 7, 2007

#43 Phil from SATX said . . .

We've been talking ALL SEASON about how effective Wolfe was in the short passing game in the preseason. It takes until the season is over (because let's be honest, it was over after the Giants loss) for RT to use him.

Ditto Hester...
Ditto Greg Olsen...

How frustrating is it to have real weapons on your team and not use them?

I can answer that - migraine inducing, blood pressure raising, Michael Douglas in Falling Down-style frustration.

Rancid, how's the plan coming?

December 7, 2007

#44 jeff said . . .

i'm thinking about next year and i'm excited about the offensive possibilities...bring berrian back, olsen is a star, wolfe third downs....they need a left tackle, slide tait to right tackle...get a goddamn quarterback

December 7, 2007

#45 where's Olsen? said . . .

what a shame.

We finally used Hester as a regular receiver and he looked great. We finally played Wolfe more and he looked great.

The story of this season is too little, too late. I sincerely hope there is coaching change, but unlike a lot of you, I don't want to see Lovie go. The man took us to the Superbowl just 10 months ago. However, he does need to change coordinators, at least the inept RT.

Story of Grossman's career- when things look promising for him, injury strikes.

I agree- give Orton a go. See what we got. Start Wolfe, Hester and Olsen the rest of the way, and whatever young Olinemen we may still have around.

Painful: Chris Collinsworth becoming at least the second announcer this year to outright laugh out loud at our team.

Mike is wrong about "rebuilding" the D line. Uh, you mean one of the best units in the league should be "rebuilt" Mike? Here is what that line looks like next year: 3 pro bowl calibur DE's and Bazuin coming off redshirt, Tommie Harris HEALTHY, Dusty D coming back to start next to him, and two guys who are better backups than Boone and Scott were in Walker and Adams.
How do you rebuild THAT Mike? How do you improve on Wale, Alex Brown and Anderson?? How do you upgrade from Tommie Fucking Harris??
We got a lot to fix, but D-line is not one of them. There only problem is injury, and you fix that by getting healthy.

December 7, 2007

#46 Duff Diggler said . . .

oh....and by the way.... what do you guys think about Donovan McNabb??? I'm not usually one to ride the fence, but I see both sides on this one... He could come in to his hometown and revitalize his career....think of the defensive attention breakdowns if he comes to us healthy and mobile, srambles, and has berrian, hester, and olsen flying around!!! Now the possible downside.... and i promised myself i would repress this memory....but here goes........ three words...... Cordell Stewart repeat. What a f#@*ing nightmare that would be!!! I'll say one thing though....if we do get him... Somebody tell Tommie we're back to first trying to win the division again....not the superbowl.... i think that our, and I stress the word OUR, preseason arrogance contributed to our Yankees impression..... (go cubs)

December 7, 2007

#47 Phil from SATX said . . .

The thing is, Donavon McNabb can be a bad QB. And he's now officially old, and officially injury-prone.

No to McNabb. Unless you didn't break the bank for him and assuming you also drafted for the future.

I think someone's going to pay him a lot of money, which is why I say no - he is a high probability to get injured, and especially with us rebuilding our line.

Speaking of the line, I'm no expert at offensive lines, but Jeff, don't you think we need some guard help too? If either one of those guards was good, lined up next to Kreutz we should have been able to blast some holes inside and we didn't blast a one. All season long.

December 7, 2007

#48 where's Olsen? said . . .

All the knocks on the O are deserved. But to continue about our D, consider this.
Next year we begin with a healthy Vasher and Brown, two pro bowlers instantly added to the secondary. McBride and McGowan become backups with valuable experience from this year.
We get Dusty D back on the D line, and Tommie Harris healthy. Remember an injured Harris has still been one of the best DTs in the league this year.
Bringing back those three starters will make a world of difference, just as losing them killed us this year.

The focus needs to be squarely on improving the Oline and drafting a stud RB.

December 7, 2007

#49 jeff said . . .

i like garza but metcalf is a mess. faneca is going to be available but faneca is going to make a lot of money. i think the bears will be best next year with kreutz, garza, tait on the right side. they need to re-build the left side of their offensive line. people say trade up for the quarterback...i'd trade up for a certain kid from michigan at left tackle.

December 7, 2007

#50 Willie in Chicago said . . .

Ive been a Bears fan for all my life (14 years) lol, and i have never have seen such an obismul Defence ever. Even the freekin Dolphins have a better D than us. We cant stop anything on fourth down, our offence always starts off 1 and 15 and if they somehow get a first down it gets called back. i had high hopes for this years but theve been crushed. Just a tip: FIRE TURNER!!!!!

December 7, 2007

#51 Duff Diggler said . . .

our biggest hole in defense is the cover 2....with dusty out, tommie hurt, and bazuin IRed, the opposing QBs have all day to throw!!! That zone scheme we use is pointless if we can't get pressure.... yes, when healthy we can run it, and run it well....but when were not, doesn't it make sence to switch to at least a base man 4-3 coverage???? by the way: i know we are all heart broken and mainly talking negatively...but hats off to P'nut and Wale this season....they really stepped up....

December 7, 2007

#52 BRIANsong said . . .

Wide open receivers all over the field. Last night was not about the Redskins making plays. Todd Collins threw to wide open receivers all over the field.

December 7, 2007

#53 where's Olsen? said . . .

I agree Jeff. Reading Mel Kiper, it seems there are 3 or 4 top flight tackles in this year's draft, including Jake Long (I think that's the UM kid's name).
It would be nice to get one of them.
In retrospect, there was buzz around last year's draft about the Bears taking a guard named Grubbs I think, who went to the Ravens and is playing well. Hindsight.....

December 7, 2007

#54 Willie from Chicago said . . .

What they should do this off season is to scrap there whole offensive line (besides kreutz), Draft a Solid DT and if Grossmans injury is as serious as it looked and Orton doesnt play good then we should pick up a good QB like Donovan Mcnab if he becomes a FA or Darek Anderson which is a great young QB.

Another problem i see is Lubby Smith. He is a terrible in game coach. I hate to say this but the bears should maybe get rid of him and get Bill Cohwer.

The bears still have a chance at a wild card if Minnisota, Detroit and Arizona all loose this week. I may be stupid for saying that or my youth is showing but ill never give up hope. Ill only look to next season when the bears are mathematically out, then and only then.

START OLSEN!!!!!!!!!!!

December 7, 2007

#55 Al in WI said . . .

Metcalf should be gone today. Not at the end of the season, today. That dopey MF'er got Rex hurt, got blown up on the goal line, and had another series of false starts. He is garbage. Just as he was in 02-05 the last time we had to watch him play.
The offensive line has to be the number one priority on this team for the offseason. Faneca is one of the best gaurds in football and worth the investment. I also like the idea of drafting a LT in the 1st round of the draft.
Re-sign Grossman. If Orton shows you anything positive the last few games, then allow him to complete with Rex next year. Other areas are far more critical than the qb and Rex was playing well since coming back in. The only concern would be if he has damaged his physce with another serious leg injury. Dump Griese, he doesnt' have anything left, and is a luxury we can no longer afford. Hopefully a project qb will fall in the Bears lap for 3rd string.
The following players should be released to try and free up money: Fred Miller, Moose, Metcalf, Ruben Brown (not resigned he is FA), Archuletta, and Griese. Others like Benson and AP are debatable.

December 7, 2007

#56 PolygonHell said . . .

I think a lot of people are panicking about the number of holes and how/if they can be fiilled.

A lot of the problems on both sides aren't necessarilly talent, they are with execution. There has to e a lot of finger pointing going on in the locker room, perhaps not to peoples faces but it'll be there.

Players are going out trying to do too much and blowing assignments, or just giveng up when things start to go bad football is fundamentally a team game. And unlike last year the Bears haven't played good team football this year.

I think it's likly Rex won't be signed if the injury is season ending, and that would mean Turner will be gone with him. I think Rex had shown promise and I'd have liked to have seen him succeed but I think he'll be percieved as too much of a risk with the injury.

The big questions is why are players failing to execute on the fundamentals? Running the right route, catching the football, tackling blocking. I don't believe it's all talent. A lot of that has to fall on the position coaches and the coordinators. I do think there will be some significant coaching turnover in the offseason.

As much as I hate to quote Brian Gumbal he said that in his opinion you have to go back to the 70's to see a Bears team that ran with such futility. And thinking back I can't think of a Bears team that struggled as much on the ground.

We need to look at Orton, and a few other perenial bench sitters.

The line needs work, possibly at both tackle and guard. We need a replacement for Mike Brown and some luck to have key player healthy, but I don't see next year being a repeat of this.

But then I'm a perenial optimist when it comes to the Bears.

December 7, 2007

#57 where's Olsen? said . . .

Willie use the spellchecker, son. Nobody will take you seriously with words like "obismul"

December 7, 2007

#58 Phil from SATX said . . .

I want Rex back if his injury isn't likely to be chronic. That said, if I had to lose Rex in order to lose RT,

bye Rex. and wish you well.

But you point out an interesting connection. David Haugh talks about it, but for the life of me I can't figure out why there should be a connection between Rex and RT. I believe that Rex can't possibly be happy with a coordinator that has made him look so bad.

Also, we're acting like there's an option about starting Orton. What would that option be? Lovie said he thought Rex's injury was bad, and the papers interpreted that to mean season-ending. We know there's nothing else to look at with Griese. Obviously it's Orton. Let's hope we see enough to get excited about, or enough to know we don't need to get excited.

Regarding Griese, I know he's signed and don't know what kind of a salary cap hit they'd take by dumping him. But he should indeed be dumped. Never have a QB on your roster that you know is not good enough to start. And BG seems to be a classic .500 type of QB. That's not good enough to start. Spend your money on someone cheaper.

December 7, 2007

#59 jalber9648 said . . .

Who's really surprised by the futility of this bunch of losers? This wake started when the Giants came from behind and handed the Bears their asses last week. The loss to the 'Skins was simply icing on the cake. Was the loss of gamer T. Jones meant to be addition by subtraction? Was I the only one who instantly recognized that Benson had NO heart? How long will Jerry Angelo be allowed to play out his charade as one of the most inept execs in the NFL? This whole thing stinks from top to bottom. Hester is it...maybe Robbie Gould. I've heard it takes defense to win championships; perhaps, you could make the case in today's throw happy NFL that it takes offense. I can't see how you can win championships with ONLY special teams. Besides, the more Hester is running back kicks, the more the other team is scoring. Let's face it...this team sucks and has fallen to the spot in the league that Mr. Jagoff Angelo deserves. What a weasel!

December 7, 2007

#60 Phil from SATX said . . .

And with that comment, it now needs to be said...

PO'd

Al

You were right, I was wrong.

December 7, 2007

#61 Bill said . . .

If Lovie had any fire in him, he'd cut someone before the season ended. In fact, I'd like to see him cut one of the linemen (Metcalf would do) to show that the lack of concentration that leads to dumb penalties will not be tolerated. Light a fire on the rest of the guys that are playing for jobs.

If he really wanted to be bold, he could fire an assistant coach too; I vote for the O-line coach. Again - to show that enough is enough.

But I'm sure we'll get a weak press conference where he'll say "the responsibility starts with me - and then nothing else. Since he won't fire himself, it leaves no impression that anything will actually happen.

And yet, as he's shown with the firing of Terry Shea and the benching of Grossman and Arch Deluxe, things will happen. We will just have to wait a few weeks before it starts.

December 7, 2007

#62 topherized said . . .

its a sad day in bears nation. This season was non-offically over when we lost to the lions in week 4 (maybe even against Dallas when we lost every probowl player on defense).

Top things to consider:

1) Fire Ron Turner (sorry dude you didnt utilize Hester, Olsen, or really anyone all season)

2) Find 2 new offensive tackles (at minimum)

3) figure out a "running back tandem" that actually works (i'm not saying get rid of benson and AP, but we need something different)

4) Hester needs to learn to become a solid #2 reciever so he can stay on the field on offense (he looked pretty solid yesterday)

5) re-sign rex, draft dennis dixon in the 2nd round, fire brian "noodle arm" gresie.

6) Pray to god mike brown gets healthy, comes back, and doesnt get hurt next year (wow big maybes), then release AA.

7) resign lance briggs, B-twice, and figure out how to make mark bradley shut his mouth and play reciever.

8) realize Olsen is a better TE than des clark (although i like them both) and get him some reps.

9) someone tell lovie that you cant kick a field goal in the 4th quarter from the 5 yard line to make it a 4 point lead then hope your defense can stop the other team from scoring (they cant).

December 7, 2007

#63 Phil from SATX said . . .

Jalber, you are too harsh, my man. It's not as bad as all that. It's been said repeatedly - CB was an understandable pick. Once those two played out that season, it's not Angelo's fault that they decided they couldn't get along on the same team, and he wasn't going to trade Ced at that point and keep TJ. We have a lot of good personnel on this team, and some bad.

Jerry's done a lot of good things. The evaporating oline apparently happened at too slow of a pace to see - two years ago they were very good, last year they were good enough with the RB tandem, this year they calcified into a disaster.

There are still great players on this team
On D

Brian U
Briggs
A hurt Mike B
Vasher
Tillman
Tommie H
Wale, this year
Mark Anderson (serious upside even if he's still learning)
Dusty D should be great

and some very good players on D

Alex Brown
Hunter H.
Darwin Walker (probably)
Anthony Adams (good at run)
D. Manning (upside to him)

Special Teams

The Best Ever
Gould (but need a longer kicker)
Maynard's still good
Ayanbadejo
Idonije (seriously love that guy)

A much shorter list on O, but still a list:

Great players
Des Clark
Greg Olsen
Devin Hester (not great under this scheme but the new coordinator will use him much better)
Olin Kreutz (not this year so he may be trying to work himself off the list)

Now that I'm working this I see that the list is actually quite short on offense. You maybe could add B twice to the very good list, I don't like him after this year, you have to take Moose off very good, John Tait? Seriously B-twice is probably the only name that belongs on very good. Hopefully Wolfe will get there some day if he gets playing time.

So if you want to throw Angelo under the bus, you probably could make a case on offense given that very short list. But not on D. I admittedly did wind up in a different place than I thought I was going, because that O list is quite short. It does kind of say something about Angelo on O. But there's still lots of great players on this team that Angelo brought in here.

December 7, 2007

#64 Mike said . . .

The offensive and defensive lines need to be rebuilt. Dan Bauzain was on the cusp of being cut before the Bears buried him on the IR. Alex Brown is no l0nger good. Mark Anderson is a situational pass rusher and not an every down back. Tommie Harris isn't the same player he was due to injury (maybe he never gets back to his former level like so many unfortunate cases before him in the NFL). Dusty Dvoracek has played less than one game in his NFL career, therefore is a question mark at this point.

And lest we all forget, the Bears have one of the worst run defenses in the NFL.

Rebuild the lines in 2008 needs to be the mantra.

December 7, 2007

#65 where's Olsen? said . . .

please dont call us "Bears Nation."
We are a proud franchise, even when we are down. We do not need to steal from the Raiders and Red Sox.
Fuck "nations"

December 7, 2007

#66 jdawg said . . .

Grossman's injury is reported to be a sprain with a one-month recovery time.

He is Gumby, dammit

December 7, 2007

#67 beardown1982 said . . .

No surgery for Rex...he finally gets a 'break.'

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2007/12/no-surgery-for.html

December 7, 2007

#68 big rob said . . .

I froze my ass off at the game last eve with such high hopes of beating the redskins... we lost and that makes me sad...

December 8, 2007

#69 jeff said . . .

if the bears had a professional safety on the field, they'd be a better defense. they don't have a single player on the roster currently who is good enough to start at safety for a first class defense. this is why we're getting burnt by every team with a quality tight end. who is going to cover them?

December 8, 2007

#70 Shady McBears Fan said . . .

There is a detailed blueprint in the NFL on how to beat the Bears and their cover-2 defense:

Find the soft spot in the zone which is usually in the middle of the field behind the linebackers and in front of the safeties. The only way to stop teams is by pressuring the QB into forcing bad passes and bad decisions. Clearly last night was an example of the defense's inability to create pressure on back-up QB Collins. Still can't believe that guy tore us up. Just goes to show how easy it is to beat this defense right now when they're not pressuring the QB. That's why after Safety, the next most valuable position in the defense is DT.

Completely agree with Duff (#35) about investing all that $ in the LB position with so many other holes to fill. Nice post.

December 8, 2007

#71 Willie from Chicago said . . .

Duff, i completely agree with you. with the money left over from Briggs we can get a top notch QB. Maybe Darek Anderson (if he becomes a free agent). In the draft we should focus on the O line from rounds 3-7 and on the various needs on the D for the 1 and 2 rounds.

As much as i hate to say it, i think the season is over and we should play our backups to see what we got for next year. (even if were one game out). However if the Lions, Arizona, and the Vikings all loose and we win next week, then we should at least try. Its possible.

FIRE TURNER!!!!!!!

December 8, 2007

#72 jalber9648 said . . .

Phil from SATX -
Great overview. I'm sure I can learn a few things from you (he said without even a hint of sarcasm). It's clear that I have a problem with Angelo that sometimes clouds my judgment. I will admit he's done pretty well drafting on the D-side of the ball. But, the D is breaking down rapidly. Sure, some of the situational players had good years (Anderson and Wale) and Hillenmeyer and Briggs appear to be the real deal. The heart of this defense, however, lies with Urlacher and Harris. Both once great, but are they now broken down and headed toward ordinary? And you said it really well, the offense is a MESS from Turner to the QB situation to CB (I still think he's a pussy) to the rapidly disappearing line. Berrian has no one to throw to him and I'm not sure I agree that the TE's are "great." Again, they would be "great" with a Favre throwing to them, but they have no QB with whom to link. I still believe it's a breakdown by management. In most businesses, that's the case. The "workers" try to do well and want to do well. But, when management is weak and the "workers" don't get support (Clark, Berrian, and Olsen without a QB - and whose fault is that.....JA?), the results suck. I say have the McCaskeys sell, get rid of Angelo, Lovie, Turner, Babich...the whole mess and let the talent reach their potential with a real management support system. I admit, again, that I have a viscerally negative reaction to Angelo...I think he's a self aggrandizing weasel not willing to accept accountability. Gut reaction, but a real one. And I'm Italian and should be reveling in a fellow Italian boy made good. Angelo....not the Italian Stallion...he's the Italian Gelding. I'd love to get a comment back. I like the way you think, even if I'm disagreeing with you.

December 8, 2007

#73 Jimbo said . . .

Here's a list of every QB drafted over the last 3 years. Obviously the '07 class needs time to pan out, but from what we've seen from those who've played, they're off to a slow start. 2006 and 2005 were not good classes either, unless you think VY is going to pull it together (he won't). Maybe Leinart, maybe Cutler as well. All three were drafted top 11, so pretty high picks. So, it's safe to say finding a real good QB in the draft is going to be tough. We should try, but don't hold your breath. Should we trade for Anderson? The price will be high, maybe too high if Cleveland wants a 1 and 2. Bottom line. Resign Rex. Unless we want to write off the playoffs for the next 3 or 4 years, we have to resign him. For better or worse.

2007
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb
John Beck
Drew Stanton
Trent Edwards
Isaiah Stanback
Jeff Rowe
Troy Smith
Jordan Palmer
Tyler Thigpen
2006
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler
Kellen Clemens
Tarvaris Jackson
Charlie Whitehurst
Brodie Croyle
Ingle Martin
Omar Jacobs
Reggie McNeal
Bruce Gradkowski
D.J. Shockley
2005
Alex D. Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell
Charlie Frye
Andrew Walter
David Greene
Kyle Orton
Stefan Lefors
Dan Orlovsky
Adrian McPherson
Derek Anderson
James Kilian
Matt Cassel
Ryan Fitzpatrick

December 8, 2007

#74 Al in WI said . . .

Phil, no need to apologize for an opinion. I know I'd have plenty if I were to start doing that. The only bloggers I have an issue with are those who are dishonest. Impersonating others, fake names, pretending to be fans ect. I think you know who I mean.
I'm both relieved and disapointed for Rex. On the one hand he's still done for the year, but the other it isn't a long term recovery.
Oh well, the better Kyle plays the stronger the position becomes, and the more likely we can save some cap space by dumping Griese.

December 8, 2007

#75 Shady McBears Fan said . . .

It really doesn't matter who's playing QB with the offense playing the way it is.

Sure it 'matters' but how can anybody, much less these coaches, evaluate talent under these kinds of conditions?

My question is what makes Tony Dungy different from Lovie Smith?

Mike, (64)

Alex Brown has been one of the best ends for the Bears the past 5 years. He also happens to be one of my favorite Chicago Bears (I put him up there with Des Clark). Remember last offseason when there were rumors of trade talks involving Brown? He projected unselfishness and put the team ahead of himself. Didn't Alex just force a fumble against Washington Thursday? I can't understand how you can say 'he is no longer good'. (I AM very curious to know what the Bears have in mind with ALL of their ends: Wale, Brown, Anderson and Bazuin included this offseason.) Sometimes you piss the hell outta me with some of the crap you say. I mean, it's always, always, always negative. You're a Bears-kill. Why would a true fan possess such an unrelenting pessimism? But I have to give you credit, you tell it like it is. But my problem is when you start making shit up just to piss Bears fans off. I don't like those kind of people.

December 8, 2007

#76 Phil from SATX said . . .

Al, it wasn't an apology, just the fact that I felt I needed to acknowledge that you and PO'd had it right. He still probably needed to get benched, and we needed to see with BG could do. But in the end you were right about the kid, in my opinion.

Despite your warnings, I watched most of the game tonight. It actually didn't make me vomit, although I stopped watching before the Redskins scored again. I was surprised to see that the D actually played well at the beginning, maybe you could even say for most of the game. They gave up big plays too often, which has been one of the stories of this season.

I was struck by how different BU is right now. Remember when he could fly across the field, erasing mistakes, moving faster than you thought a big man could move, looking like a freaking cheetah? Actually 1/2 cheetah, 1/2 buffalo, and 1/2 fire breathing bear. He can't do that right now. Is it this season, or is it forever ? It made me sad. I know his career's on the downslope, but call me selfish, I want more from him.

Mark Anderson played well, Alex Brown had a great game and Wale is playing fantastic.

On the other side, I've got to give him some credit - that bastard RT did a pretty good job, with the huge exception of insisting on running AP on first down right into the heart of the line, over and over again. Other than that, very good play calls. Hester showed more than glimpses, Wolfe showed glimpses, and BB actually showed me a lot. At this stage in the season, he IS making the tough catches. Stupid not to run out of bounds, not very skillful on trying to keep in bounds on the one pass, but overall excellent. Greg Olsen had an incredible one-hander. He's a real stud even if it's becoming apparent he has a real high center of gravity and comes down pretty easily.

And guess what? BG actually played pretty good too. Didn't realize that one of the two consecutive ints was pretty meaningless at the end of the half. Second half he was pretty darn good. Not saying I'm reconsidering him as a starting option, just that he wasn't bad.

Jalber, enjoyed your post. I am interested to know how you developed this hatred of your fellow countryman, because you have to admit the last few years have been pretty great with these Bears - lots to cheer for, lots to get excited about, and before this year, lots of wins. I feel like his decisions have made sense even if they haven't panned out in retrospect, which is why I trust him more than our coaches this year, because I don't think their decisions and the things they say make sense. Was it the QB choice? The RB choice? Letting TJ go? All those plus something else?

I must say there's no point in even dreaming about the McCaskeys selling. Not even sure I want them to because of Virginia Halas. Remember her name...Do you want to be owned by someone like Ziggy Wulf who has no connection to Chicago? (pretty sure most people's answer would say yes)

I am one who doesn't think the owners have been cheap recently, ever since Ted and Angelo got installed. And they clearly don't seem to meddle in the operation.

I am also against the concept of "oline in rounds 3-7." We have to go big on oline, Beekman was a 4th rounder and hasn't been able to make it on the field. One time I started doing research trying to prove that other 4th round lineman are playing for their teams, and I could not support it. On the other hand, the first rounders start. We need new starters. I vote trading down from our pick and packaging picks to get two low-round 1sts and take linemen. Or at least one blue-chipper and maybe the Faneca guy in FA. But nothing good for this team will happen without a new line (and new coordinator to call plays for the new line). Faneca would be expensive (am I saying his name right, I don't even know him) but I'm not sure if people here realize how huge the Leonard Davis free agent signing was for the Cowboys - he transformed their line from okay to great just by coming on. And you can see what it's done for them (combined with a great quarterback). A great lineman is worth the money. The over-the-hill gang we have is not. And you'll have plenty of money when you don't re-sign Brown and cut Miller (not sure of salary cap issues on that one).

One final thought, AP has proven that he can do some good things, especially when pass catching, but he's way too droppable for a feature back. At least now we know.

Time to learn more about some other guys now.

December 8, 2007

#77 b said . . .

Willie, are u a complete idiot? Trading Briggs will hurt our defense evn more. And all this shit about the bears trying and they r still in it so they should try dumb. they need to just give up and get a high draft pick. So shut up about trying

GO
2008

December 8, 2007

#78 b said . . .

Willie u suck stopp talking ur and idiot that knows nothing about football.

December 8, 2007

#79 b said . . .

packers r gonna kick ur bears ass u retard hahahah

December 9, 2007

#80 Willie from Chicago said . . .

get the fuck out of here, go to your pethetic cheesehead blog. I hope the bears make the playoffs and beat the packers (i know it wont happen lol) and beat them in the regular season. Go kill yourself you worthless bitch.

BEAR DOWN! kill the packers!

December 9, 2007

#81 ilikereylestate said . . .

hahhahaha lol thats right Willie you tell that motherfucker to not say a god dam thing on this blog he has no place to open his god dam mouth and should keep it shut. lllllloooolllllll

December 9, 2007

#82 Willie from Chicago said . . .

Ya well thats another big reason for sweeping the packers. lol

But after this weekends games the bears find themselves now 2 games back of Minnisota (which they play next week) but i ask you guys this, If the bears somehow win on monday night vs the vikings (which will give us the tiebraker over minnisota) and the cardinals loose (which gives us the tiebraker over Arizona) and our remaining games are green bay who may not play all 4 quarters, and the Aints who dont have Reggie Bush, do you guys think its possible and do you think we should try to make a push at it?

I think we should give it a shot but i want to know if you guys think im a complete idiot for asking or you agree.

BEAR DOWN!

December 10, 2007

#83 Willie from Chicago said . . .

Oh i forgot to mention that we'll have to win out to get the tiebrakers.

December 10, 2007

#84 b said . . .

f*** the bears

December 10, 2007

#85 Russ said . . .

Has anyone heard of a guy names Gregg Duff that played for the bears in the 70's? If so, what year did he play?

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