I don't hide from the fact that I don't like Brett Favre. Not just in the I'm-a-Bears-fan-so-I-can't-like-Favre way. I don't like Favre the person. I don't like Favre the player. I don't like Favre in commercials. I don't like how the media treats a quarterback with as many Super Bowl victories as Jeff Hostetler like he's God's gift to the sport. I don't like that an athlete who has singlehandedly cost him team more big games than any other I know receives unabashed praise from anybody with a microphone.
More than anything, I think Favre is full of shit. I always have. He preaches team but will show up a receiver on the field at the drop of a hat, especially when the camera's on him. He cries on television and dominates the media for a week only to turn around a few months later and say, "Nah fuck that, I wanna play again."
Favre is about Favre and if he returns to the Green Bay Packers - who have done everything but denounce him in the press - he proves it. If he returns to a team other than the Packers - especially the Vikings - he proves it there to.
#4 will be on the field somewhere this season, don't think any different. He'll play again. Retire again. Play again. And John Madden will need the jaws of life to have his hand pulled out of his pants after each interception.
#2 Phil from SATX said . . .Didn't u know that all of Favre's interceptions are not bad decisions, they are justified because he is just trying to make something happen. The NFC Championship one was one of the worst ever in a big game.
July 10, 2008
#3 Rancid said . . .Jaws of life - a Jeff classic! Thanks dude!
I don't hate Favre like you do, but I love how much you hate him, and Midway (where's Midway btw?) and others here. And I don't disagree with any of your reasons to hate him. And as much as I was celebrating his retirement, I hope like hell he'll come back to the Packers, because I think it will mean two wins for us.
And if he decides he hates the Packers after they "dis" him by telling him thanks but no, maybe he'll decide to give us a call. If he does, it'll be "take a seat Rex, watch and learn a little more."
But that ain't happnin so I'll be rooting for him to come back to the Pack and just completely screw with their minds, and franchise. Someone had mentioned us getting a disgruntled and getting-stale Aaron Rogers, which could be another cool turn of the screw.
One more comment about Jerry and Lovie's comment about standing pat on RB - if it's true, it makes no sense in the world, that in one minute you were talking about the 1-2 punch of Benson/Forte, and intimating that Ced would continue to be the starter, and in the next second 1/2 of that equation is gone and your stance is "we feel good about our running backs." Either you were lying before, or you're lying now, or you're delusional.
I hope that it was Lying Now. I will take a little hope from the fact that those words came out of Lovie's mouth, and not Angelo's. If it comes out of Angelo's mouth, it's real - for Lovie, he may not be able to say anything else. But when you lose presumptive starters because of off-field incidents, and your plan to replace is just promoting from within, that's an f-ed up plan.
Again, hopefully it's Lovie saying stuff that he has to say (for AP's and Wolfe's psyche alone) and Angelo's just biding his time, waiting for roster cuts. Me hopes.
July 10, 2008
#4 Phil from SATX said . . .Nice rant, jeff. I agree completely
In response to Phil, I usually like your stuff but why is it that so many Bears fans feel compelled to constantly bring up the idea of #4 playing for us? Favre would destroy this team. Arggghh... Why am I even bothering to comment about this? I think I would rather go through that getting smacked in the nuts torture from the last James Bond movie (Casino Royale I think) than to read another comment wistfully dreaming of him becoming our QB. Screw the bastard.
July 10, 2008
#5 Rancid said . . .Rancid - let's just assume you woke up tomorrow and the headline said "Favre joins the Bears." Step back and think about what your reaction would be, given that it was a done deal, and he was showing up in camp. You're a BTBF (that would be Big Time Bear Fan) - and I have no doubt that when confronted with the reality of a Hall of Fame QB joining us, you'd change your tune. I'm not pining for the guy, far from it, but if it happened...
July 10, 2008
#6 jeff said . . .I refuse to even consider the possibility.
July 10, 2008
#7 mikebdot said . . .phil, i toyed with writing about it but i absolutely couldn't. it would make me sick. its funny that the teams being seriously mentioned are the bears and vikings. i'd love to get a vikings fan opinion - they hate the packers as much as we do these days.
July 10, 2008
#8 Pissed Off said . . .Rancid: I have an itch..down there...can you help me out? F'in classic.
If the next Bond is anywhere as good as Casino Royale, Daniel Craig might just be the best Bond ever. And I'm not even joking.
For those that don't know, do yourself a favor and rent "L4yer Cake". Seriously. It's the nuts.
Fuck Favraaaaahhh. Wherever he may go, there shall he eat a dick. Especially if it ends up in a booth with Heimerdingerer or Deerdolt.
July 10, 2008
#9 Rancid said . . .Amen brother. I hate Favre as well, and yes I mean the person. No doubt he will play somewhere this year, I dont think it'll be Green Bay, but somewhere. I've been saying it for months, he is so full of shit its coming out his ears.
It sounds as though the pack DO NOT want him back. If they say No to Brett, I will actually gain a tad of respect for that organization for saying "Fuck you Brett, you've dicked us around one too many times."
Favre aint coming here so I'm not even going to entertain the talk, it all fucking stupid and there is no chance he comes to this team. ZERO, the BT would not allow that shit and I cant believe there is even mention of it on this site. Pathetic.
July 10, 2008
#10 Pissed Off said . . .mikebdot - that's easily one of the most disturbing scenes I've seen in a movie, I get that deep stomach ache just thinking about it.
Concerning Madden's personal god, I can see a team with decent WR corps and a shitty QB situation trying to get Favre to get them into the playoffs. ( I think someone like Arizona should be interested, in spite of the fact it would probably ruin Matt L.) I hope no one would be stupid enough to use him as a "mentor". He's not a sound fundamental QB, he's a gunslinger who takes tons of risks, which, in the first half of his career were so successful that it makes everyone miss the fact that those same risks destroyed his teams chances in the second half of his career. To take him onto an established team with WRs who he can't bully is a decent risk. If he has a good year, you could make the playoffs. But the thought of him going to a team to teach a young rookie how he should play for his career is foolish. I wouldn't want him as a QB mentor. Could you imagine him "mentoring" Rex? "Just keep slinging it up there man, someday they'll catch it and you'll be a hero forever" Yeah, that's exactly what Rex needs to hear.
July 10, 2008
#11 AK said . . .BREAKING NEWS
Listening to KFAN Minneapolis, a guy who works at the Biloxi Sun Times in Mississippi, not a writer (he's not on the website) called into KFAN (he's a relative of an intern at KFAN) to say that he has personally talked to Favre and he has specifically cited the Vikings as the team he wants to come back and play for. The guy who broke the story is Riley Tibido (sp?). There is a related story on PFT. Some of the fans (the fairweather only fans in my opinion) would actually like to see Favre with the purple and about 50% (the hardcore tradition type fans) would totally hate to see him there.
July 10, 2008
#12 minnie Mad Dog said . . .Jeff, this is the single greatest blog post in the history of this website. I agreed with every damn word.
July 10, 2008
#13 Bears99 said . . .Jeff - Great post. I agree 100%. Also, Phil from satx is totally full of crap on this one. If Favre were the starting Bears QB it would make me so sick I could not watch. It would destroy the whole season(s), maybe make me Go Postal. But, thank God, that is not going to happen.
And, there is one really wonderful possibility if Golden Boy does come back, either with the CheeseHeads or the Queens. Imagine. A linebacker blitz is called and Urlacher comes wide open. He nails Favre big time on a good, totally clean hit, causing Favre to retire from the game and rethink his career options. That would be worth 10 years of Bears Football for me. Like Jeff, I don't care for that guy.
July 10, 2008
#14 Phil from SATX said . . .I'm split. Jeff, you make a good point with "He cries on television and dominates the media for a week only to turn around a few months later and say, "Nah fuck that, I wanna play again."
He would not ruin the team. he would only improve a list of quaterbacks that have failed to make a big enough impact on the team.
1. Big bad JQ
2. Chad "where the fuck is my surfboard" Hutchinson
3. Jeff " my gut hangs out farther then keith traylors" blake
4. Kurt" did I see playing time?" kittner
5. Jeff " never played a down" George
6. Craig "ouch my ankle" Krenzel
7. Slash
8. Chris "older then dust" Chandler
9.Shane" i tried my best, I really did" Matthews
10. Cade McNown. no words needed
July 11, 2008
#15 Shady said . . .Now I feel like I need to defend myself. Is there no one else here who believes that BF wouldn't be a better QB, even at his advanced age, then Rex and Kyle? I'm okay if you say that after years of hating him, you could never support him, even if I don't believe you (real Bear fans don't desert their team because of one player - if they did, they'd be gone long ago and a million times over). And were there any Bad Actor HoF QB's that are just bad citizens and people, I wouldn't want them no matter how great they are. And I officially am not pining, in any way shape or form, for BF on our team. But if he was floating around there, open for signing?
People are talking about our limited window because of a still-great D and D Hester in his prime - on purely football terms you wouldn't want to take a shot on a season with this guy? His selfishness, his gunslingingness, his tendency to worsen as the cold moves in - all acknowledged. But you have to acknowledge his skills as well.
Now that you know it's tantamount to political suicide to take this position, I'm sure I'll get no takers, but again I challenge you - tell me for real that if you had a shot at getting Favre on the Bears, and you didn't have to mortgage the future for it, that he wouldn't represent our best chance of getting to the Super Bowl this year over what we have currently. And I say this as a staunch Rex supporter. But COME ON!
July 11, 2008
#16 Rancid said . . .As a Cubs fan, I have been forced to watch former Cardinal Jim Edmonds don a Cubs uniform this season. It has been difficult at times, but for the most part Jimmy has actually done well and he was picked up for cheap. Now if Rex Grossman fucks up again and leaves the team next year, I wouldn't mind seeing a future HOF veteran Brett Favre given the keys to the offense. I mean, as wrong as it sounds, he'd be the best QB we've had behind center in a long long long time. Why not? I think I could handle watching #4 in a Bears uniform IF the circumstances were right (which they aren't now)... At least I think I could handle it. Maybe.
July 11, 2008
#17 Pissed Off said . . .PO - I'd be ok if your report about the Queens is right. I'd love to see Bretty poo screaming and waving his arms every time Btwice drops a TD.
July 11, 2008
#18 Pissed Off said . . .Nicely done Rancid, the Btwice drop comment...dead on.
No, Favre on the team, NO, why do I get sucked in to even discussing this. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE do I want Favre here, even if we have to endure a Johnathan Quinn comeback as our QB for the next 5 years. No No, No! And by the way Shady, Edmonds is no where near the status with the MLB that Favre is in the NFL so that comparison is horrible not to mention Edmonds hasnt played his whole career with the Cards.
July 11, 2008
#19 Rancid said . . .This Favre talk really puts a bright light on things including the bloggers and I see clearly now, the flood gates have been exposed, the dam has broken and now I know.
July 11, 2008
#20 zisk said . . .You know how McMahon wore a Bears Jersey to the White House after he won a ring as Brett's backup and pissed off fudgepacker fans everywhere? This would be a similar situation.
If we sold our soul to Satan himself and took him, and then didn't win, what an incredible piece of shit we would be. And if we did win, we would forever have to listen to how we had to get Brett (the greatest QB of all time (insert farting noise here) from the Packers to have a good enough team to win. In my opinion that would be a tainted ring and anyway, my soul's not for sale.
July 11, 2008
#21 zisk said . . .I vote we get farve, let our D-line have fun with him in practice and then cut him when we make our final 53 man roster
July 11, 2008
#22 Phillip L said . . .This is what I hope happens. Brat fag comes back to the packers, Rogers is justifiably pissed and asks for a trade. We pick him up for a couple late round picks and tickets to the shed aquarium. Tommie Harris cripples farve in our first game agains them, then Rogers burns all his old jerseys and leads us to multiple superbowls.
July 11, 2008
#23 LLcoolR said . . .Wow... Jeff... I don't think the mental image of Madden and the Jaws of Life is a good way to start the day.
Also, Favv-reh with the Vikings? So, would they pillage him first? He'd probably like that. Best to tell him to say "no" if any RBs ask him to go on a boat with them.
July 11, 2008
#24 beardown1082 said . . .Rancid, that was an EXCELLENT point in #19. I will speak for any bears fan that has grown up in northern wisconsin, ie packer country(they actually call themselves that up there.). We hear about how incredible the packers are, and how much favre babyjuice every football loving male is willing to stomach, and i'm not joking. people speculate over giving favre blowjobs because of how amazing he is. OK, now if the bears picked him up and actually did win the super bowl, that would seriously be just about the worst form of torture imaginable on this planet. we all deserve a super bowl team that we can love and admire, and what would happen if PACKER fans were allowed to talk shit until the end of time about how we needed them to win. (yes, they consider themselves a part of the team, a part of favre.... they are delusional. media call them loyal and all that, but they are seriously out of touch with reality when it comes to anything favre or packers) i would never want that. i agree completely with rancid, that super bowl would tainted forever. I dont know where in the country a lot of you guys are from, but i'm telling you there are bears fans that have put up with an unbelievable amount of shit in the great state of wisconsin. so if youre from SATX, and there are only cowboy fans and texans fans to deal with while favre is leading the bears to a super bowl, remember us up north. and remember that you were OK with torturing all of us up here. so i'm gonna have to be completely against the idea of favre on the bears. i would have to move then, and i would miss the cows too much.
July 11, 2008
#25 AK said . . .Favre as a Viking, huh. Honestly, wouldn't be a totally bad deal for him. Good offensive line...great running back...wide receivers are mediocore, but they have some burners (especially with B twice in the fold) who he can throw that deep ball to. Plus, the defense is pretty solid. They would compete for a playoff spot. Then again, I'm sure that artificial turf wouldn't treat an old body so well. Not to mention his not so stellar history playing there..
I bet this is a ploy to get the Packers to panic and let him play again.
Why he didn't just wait two months after the season to decide...who knows.
July 11, 2008
#26 Phil from SATX said . . .I'd rather have a young gunslinger with a lot of potential (Rex) ruin our chances than old man Favureauh throw the ball into triple coverage in the playoffs and then chew out the receivers.
The guy is a horrible QB in the playoffs. We don't need him and we don't want him.
July 11, 2008
#27 Phillip L said . . .Okay, enough. Call me a Phlip-phlopper, but very valid points are being raised about what it would mean to future Bears/Packers rivalry discussions to have to use their guy to win a Super Bowl. That resonates with me, so I'm hereby withdrawing my comments and slinking away. (not really I'll still be here)
LLcool, For the record, I live in SATX but hail from the great Northwest suburbs. AH to be specific. But it is true that I have not been subjected to Packers bashing (except here, which really doesn't count) for the past 14 years.
Goodbye!
July 11, 2008
#28 Pissed Off said . . .Also: Individual game tix go on sale tomorrow at 1 eastern/noon central. Any thoughts on how the Vikings game will be this year (oct 19)? It's the day before I get married and the fiancée and I are going to see our very first soldier field bears game.
July 11, 2008
#29 Pissed Off said . . .Great point everyone, glad to see I'm not alone in the "no way no how do I ever want Brett on this team under any circumstances, super bowl or not" way of thinking.
Beardown, that turf at the metrodome isnt the hard stuff anymore, as of last year or two years ago its some other surface thats actully just like playing on grass they say. Its still turf but its not the old stuff, basically a thin layer of covering over solid concrete, but point taken. Anything that will lead to a quicker Favre dmise is A-OK with me.
Phil glad your coming around on this, though I think your starting to get our drift I dont think you fully understand the negativity of this happening but thanks nonetheless for seeing the light. I live in ND but I consider it Packerland here just as much as Vikingland and I hear the shit, its pretty much all Green Bay and MN up here. Have fun at Soldier, I still have yet to get to a game, though you've all heard the story of how I was going to go but got da wife knocked up so I had to sell the tix, and I still Havent gone but I was considering going to that very game Phil. If I do and you do we'll have to meet.
July 11, 2008
#30 Phillip L said . . .BTW, IMO, Viking fans are soft, if the Queens actually signed Favre he'd get a warm reception at the metrodome the first time he was announced. (Probably due to never having won a SB). On the contrary if the Bears signed him, I think he'd be booed out of the building during introductions. Then again there are a lot FWFs that go to games (just rich guys with money and the like) and they arent the hardcore fans some of us on here are so maybe it'd be 50/50.
July 11, 2008
#31 HesterFan23 said . . .@PO'd - Since there are two Phils here maybe I should come up with a different handle? I don't want to encroach on Phil from SATX with a similar-sounding Phil from NYC... Suggestions?
July 11, 2008
#32 Eric said . . .Well, he just asked to be let go by the team, and doesn't want to be traded. He says he wants to choose where he gets to play next season:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521
July 11, 2008
#33 Edward Gein said . . .You guys are some of the biggest Douche Bags ever. Seriously. FAGS!
July 11, 2008
#34 slim said . . .HAHAHA typical Bears nonsense....
Maybe you could go dig up Walter Payton, he would only improve your running game. 3 million for Rex Grossman?
Go figure....I'm sure Erik Kramer is looking for work, maybe Bobby Douglas?? Hope for a strike you friggin Bear losers, after those Polok owners pull the space ship off the town dump you morons call Soldier Field.July 13, 2008
#35 slim said . . .I really hope he signs with the Bears - I really do. I actually think the thought alone is quite funny - "funny" not meaning "ironic" but funny meaning "hilarious"
It will be funny as hell when he comes to Green Bay and throws 4 or 5 interceptions in a Bears uniform.
Silly FIBS.
July 17, 2008
#36 Mike said . . .I really hope he signs with the Bears - I really do. I actually think the thought alone is quite funny - "funny" not meaning "ironic" but funny meaning "hilarious"
It will be funny as hell when he comes to Green Bay and throws 4 or 5 interceptions in a Bears uniform.
Silly FIBS.
July 17, 2008
"but why is it that so many Bears fans feel compelled to constantly bring up the idea of #4 playing for us? Favre would destroy this team."
LOL. The above statement assumes quite wrongly that the Bears don't suck ass already.
July 17, 2008
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