For those of you hell bent on blaming the offense, save it.
For those of you who think Robbie Gould should have kicked the 49er, save it.
Today the defense imploded in the fourth quarter for the second straight week and wasted a brilliant Kyle Orton/Brandon Lloyd second half.
I'll be back in the morning. Right now I'm pissed off. There will be a laundry list of assholes.
#2 zmac said . . .So far, it's a tough year to be a Bears fan. I got nothing. I want another game where we don't have to spend the whole week arguing amongst ourselves over which of our shitty moves was the mysterious "one" that cost us the game. Go for a list of non-assholes, jeff. It'd be shorter.
September 22, 2008
#3 zmac said . . .RE: #1:
Non-assholes:
Brandon Lloyd
...September 22, 2008
#4 bounce said . . .Wasted a brillian Orton/Lloyd second half Jeff?... Kinda like the Offense wasted a pick and a fumble by the defense?
September 22, 2008
#5 animal said . . .blame the defense? dude, the offense's 1,2,3 and kick didnt help the defense. they were burned out by the end...especially with the bucs' no huddle offense. the OFFENSE did not do enough to help win the game.
September 22, 2008
#6 UB said . . .As usual Jeff, you are right on.
Don't blame the O.
The D gave it up for the second straight week.Zmac you are right on- Lloyd became our #1. Matte was not spectacular, but very very solid. Can any of you picture us giving the ball to Benson 33 or 34 times and getting the results we did out of Forte? Against a great D? Awesome. He is the Bears MVP so far.
I like Jeff said it right away and continue to say it: you can't blame KO, and KO did enough to win on a team with a supposed great D. Yes, he had a couple fuck ups. He also had 2 TDs and led a comeback and held a 10 point lead. The collapse of the D, AGAIN, caused a loss. To POd and all the others sucking Grossman's sack, save it. Rexy would not have fared any better, and would probably have had 6 turnovers in a game as intense as this.
September 22, 2008
#7 animal said . . .Asshole-Me
I was raised in the Chicago Subburbs
and live in Tampa. So this one hurt
from my stand point. Bucs SuckTo make matters worst, next year I'll
live in Seattle.Go Bears, come back Skunk
September 22, 2008
#8 animal said . . .As usual Jeff, you are right on.
Don't blame the O.
The D gave it up for the second straight week.Zmac you are right on- Lloyd became our #1. Matte was not spectacular, but very very solid. Can any of you picture us giving the ball to Benson 33 or 34 times and getting the results we did out of Forte? Against a great D? Awesome. He is the Bears MVP so far.
I like Jeff said it right away and continue to say it: you can't blame KO, and KO did enough to win on a team with a supposed great D. Yes, he had a couple fuck ups. He also had 2 TDs and led a comeback and held a 10 point lead. The collapse of the D, AGAIN, caused a loss. To POd and all the others sucking Grossman's sack, save it. Rexy would not have fared any better, and would probably have had 6 turnovers in a game as intense as this.
September 22, 2008
#9 animal said . . .As usual Jeff, you are right on.
Don't blame the O.
The D gave it up for the second straight week.Zmac you are right on- Lloyd became our #1. Matte was not spectacular, but very very solid. Can any of you picture us giving the ball to Benson 33 or 34 times and getting the results we did out of Forte? Against a great D? Awesome. He is the Bears MVP so far.
I like Jeff said it right away and continue to say it: you can't blame KO, and KO did enough to win on a team with a supposed great D. Yes, he had a couple fuck ups. He also had 2 TDs and led a comeback and held a 10 point lead. The collapse of the D, AGAIN, caused a loss. To POd and all the others sucking Grossman's sack, save it. Rexy would not have fared any better, and would probably have had 6 turnovers in a game as intense as this.
September 22, 2008
#10 Mike said . . .As usual Jeff, you are right on.
Don't blame the O.
The D gave it up for the second straight week.Zmac you are right on- Lloyd became our #1. Matte was not spectacular, but very very solid. Can any of you picture us giving the ball to Benson 33 or 34 times and getting the results we did out of Forte? Against a great D? Awesome. He is the Bears MVP so far.
I like Jeff said it right away and continue to say it: you can't blame KO, and KO did enough to win on a team with a supposed great D. Yes, he had a couple fuck ups. He also had 2 TDs and led a comeback and held a 10 point lead. The collapse of the D, AGAIN, caused a loss. To POd and all the others sucking Grossman's sack, save it. Rexy would not have fared any better, and would probably have had 6 turnovers in a game as intense as this.
September 22, 2008
#11 Z said . . .I guess I'm confused. When did we decide that all blame had to be assessed to one side of the ball? Did I miss a memo here? Both sides of the ball made mistakes. Combined with the absolutely horrendous call in OT to flag Tillman for breaking up a fight and not punish Trueblood for starting one, they broke our back.
And guys? The fact that our offense looked as good as it did doesn't mean it's finally clicked. We're still extremely weak at the most important position on the field, and until we fix that, the rest of it's pointless.
September 22, 2008
#12 CAK said . . .If we are going to have a game manager that has severe accuracy and strength problems passing over 15 yards we are definitely going to have to not give up 407 yards passing to Brian fucking Griese. J.T O'Sullivan 16/23 189 2 TD's 0 INT.
I wasn't pissed we let either of these guys go but seriously why don't we draft a QB every single year and keep 4 until we find one that can fill the requirements of an NFL starter?
The O letting Tampa off the hook in the 1st half and the D doing it in the 2nd half.
This fucking sucks. If we start 1-3 and have Tennessee and Jacksonville still, we better win a shit ton of division games.
And RT horrible the 1st half, some real good stuff in the 2nd half but still choked hard in the clutch. Our O seems to go the way of our Coordinator. Fire him now. He can not coach a complete game.
Toub for OC I second the motion.
We better Bear way the fuck down for next week!!
September 22, 2008
#13 CAK said . . .Like Jeff said, the D is to blame here. Not because the Offense was amazing the entire game, but it was the D that lost it for us. Unsportsmanlike on what should have been a three and out is an Embarrassment.
September 22, 2008
#14 enderwiggin said . . .Like Jeff said, the D is to blame here. Not because the Offense was amazing the entire game, but it was the D that lost it for us. Unsportsmanlike on what should have been a three and out is an Embarrassment.
September 22, 2008
#15 Get a 1st Down said . . .my god, Jeff, animal, where have you two been the last couple of hours? I'm so glad that you two posted. I agree 100%. plenty of O. not enough D.
September 22, 2008
#16 shonbear said . . .The Bears had an edge of 7 minutes, 55 seconds in time of possession, but the Bucs had the ball for 44 of the last 53 plays
September 22, 2008
#17 shonbear said . . .Get real Jeff, watch the game two or three more times and give a real analysis. Yes the D dropped in and in those same type of games a couple years ago they come out with the necessary stops or a turnover to secure the game. Our D is older now, not as dynamic and maybe not as hungry as they were then.
So watch the game again and again and tell me that Kyle's couple of "ok" drives were based on his skill and not on the skill of Brandon Lloyd. The receivers probably had like one or two catches all day that were thrown to them in stride where they could do something with it. What about that pass to Forte in the end zone, it was short as usual and it caused not only an incompletion in the end zone, but an interception to boot.
The peanut penalty was straight up bullshit, the Defense definitely wasn't handling the no huddle offense so they couldn't get penetration because of that and Griese took advantage of it. Where are the adjustments from the coaches to combat that shit?
It doesn't matter which QB is in there, sure Rex has better accuracy, but he also takes big chances and back peddles in the pocket. Kyle has been impressive with his pocket presence and choice to run forward and attempt to make a play. the problem is always going to be with his accuracy and the jury is still out aboout whether he audibles at the right times or not.
Rash should have caught that ball that went between his hands, that was just as much a game killer as the peanut bullshit penalty.
This takes me back to the lack of disciplined Lovie team mindset. where is the accountability going to be when do you have a chance of losing your job because of your failure to perform when it matters. If you get benched, maybe then your thinking that you need to work harder to get back on the field. Davis needs to sit, Bradley or whoever needs to get a shot. This season is too short, wins are hard to come by to keep experimenting with guys that aren't making the plays when it matters, especially if it happens in two consecutive games.
0 sacks in the game.
Tommie Harris wasa given big money to be a part of this team because he is supposed to be the greatest and he had one tackle today.The teams problem is a leadership problem, it starts with the coaches and moves down to the players on offense and defense.
Their old mantra "finish" is like a curse, "unfinished business" more bullshit, stop buying fucking T-shirts and earn your fucking paychecks.
Lovie has done what he could do, his thing was beat GB first, Win the Division Second and it must have been get to the Superbowl rather than win it because this team is only getting older and worse. In the mean time we stand by with our constant and historical Quarterback woes and watch the impossible up north with the Pack being able to make use of this guy AR and he still looks good even with the loss to Dallas today (thank goodness). We watch the fucking Giants that were like a mirror team to us in regards to QB and other similarities when suddenly Eli goes on a road game amazing streak and the hungry Giants ride the wave all the way to the Super Bowl and then the Giants become the Giant Killers and do what we should have done to the Colts. Now the fucking Giants have this swagger/confidence and they are the team to beat right? /this could have been us, we came out of that NFC Championship season thinking we were going to have a swagger too and what's happened.
Can this ship be course corrected in this season? Can our team suddenly get out of their heads and play a complete game? Is it possible for our team to really dominate and make it look like it wasn't just a lucky break because so far the last two seasons have begun to make my faith waiver and I'm thinking that our spectacular and most exciting Super Bowl run was a stroke of luck and that we will be seeing the usual bullshit that we've put up with for over 20 years. I'm frustrated and yet I will never give up my hope, but I am having some major problems with getting over these missed opportunities. Winning begets winning and that supposedly surprise win in Indy should have been a major jump start and then taking charge of that Panthers game should have been the same along with this Buc game.
I realize that with our division etc... we are not out of anything and if we can just get a break through of more than one win in a row, it can build into something, but I'm not willing to accept that we just "make the playoffs or win our division". I want to compete beyond that.
All this to ask does our team have the leadership to create the kind of inspiration needed to have a break through? I believe we have talented players on our team, I'm not so sure about the way we use that talent, or the needed discipline of that talent.
Ok, just the facts, were tied with Minnesota for second place now right, now Minnesota has something to be excited about, Green Bay can't feel too bad about the game with Dallas, they hung in there. Detroit is probably feeling like they have nothing to lose. Philadelphia is a must win, if we win that we make a statement right, our new opportunity to catapult ourselves from a lame duck team to something we have all been hoping for. My major problem is that each week we are saying the same thing, ok, next week we will show them that we aren't who they thought they were, that carries right into next season we will show them the same thing.
Honestly Jeff, watch the game again as I know you will. There are like five quarters, our offense only really performed (outside of Forte) for like 1 and a half quarters out of five quarters. Look at it like you always do and make a good assessment. Insert some hope in the next blog. I'm pretty discouraged right now.
September 22, 2008
#18 Bears fan in CT said . . .Here's another thought, if you let a guy (like BG) get 67 pass attempts on you, how many interceptions should a turnover reliant team like ours be able to accomplish? That turn over ratio doesn't seems to matter much for the Bears anymore.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LET SOMEONE COME IN YOUR HOUSE AND DIS-RESPECT YOU LIKE THAT!!!
OFFENSE, DEFENSE, COACHING.
SPECIAL TEAMS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT DID THEIR JOB THE MOST COMPLETELY TODAY AND EVEN THEY MISCUED ON ONE FIELD GOAL, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY THE OFFENSES FAULT FOR NOT GETTING THEM IN BETTER RANGE. By the way, had to love that every time Robbie hit a field goal the fucking announcer had to say, "Robbie Gould is 4 for 4 on the season, Robbie is 5 for 5 on the season, Robbie is 6 for 6 on the season" UNTIL NOW YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!
September 22, 2008
#19 Bears fan in CT said . . .Wow the defense is continuing the shit from last year. They looked great for 3 quarters and showed life in the overtime. It is only fitting that an inability by the defense to "keep" walking away in the OT would be the reason we lost. I was so sick I had to turn the fucking tv off after the game. I damn near turned it off at the start of the fourth quarter because this shit is becoming a pattern.
Go Bears - I fucking guess!
September 22, 2008
#20 Luke said . . .Wow the defense is continuing the shit from last year. They looked great for 3 quarters and showed life in the overtime. It is only fitting that an inability by the defense to "keep" walking away in the OT would be the reason we lost. I was so sick I had to turn the fucking tv off after the game. I damn near turned it off at the start of the fourth quarter because this shit is becoming a pattern.
Go Bears - I fucking guess!
September 22, 2008
#21 Phil from SATX said . . .who's leading the league in yards from scrimmage right now? because I think it might be Matt Forte. just curious
September 22, 2008
#22 Luke said . . .Rancid, Mike, Z, and especially Shonbear (great post man), I agree with you. There is no one finger to point out there, and there's absolutely no way you can give the offense a pass in how they contributed (by not contributing) during this game.
I'm going to be watching this game again, in search of hope, and to refine blame. But I think what you'll see there in the end is plenty of chances for the offense to win the game for us SIMPLY BY MAKING A FIRST DOWN. They make a first down, in various situations, and we're not talking about the collapse of the D.
I thought that we HAD to win the coin flip in OT, after the Bears' D were gassed by holding on while Griese was pouring it on there at the end. We've seen him do that before, and we know that one thing about this smaller but fast Bears D is they do wear down at the end of games. We lose the coin flip, and I'm figuring, game over.
BUT IT WASN'T - they stopped them and we got the ball. Well who's the loss on now? That coin flip I was looking for, we just got it back. What did we do? Drop passes that are right in hands? Kick it back to them so the D can trot (drag themselves) back out there? And yet the D STILL did it - but Peanut fucked up because that a-hole was punching Tommie. But while you can blame them for both things, they're different things. The D DID stop them again, they just committed a stupid but in-the-moment penalty which kept the drive alive and sucked the remaining little air out of them. Let's not forget this was happening when this 60 minute game had gone 70.
The Bears didn't deserve to win, not because the D "collapsed," but because the offense could not sustain drives, had a third down percentage that's sure to drop them straight back to the bottom like last year, and scored 3's when good teams post 7's. When the O needed but ONE FIRST DOWN and couldn't get it. When the O was handed the ball in OT and told, WIN THE GAME. They couldn't.
I posted yesterday, when I'm talking about O, I'm mostly blaming RT, the worst OC in the NFL. He squandered a whole half-and-a-series with a playbook that didn't happen to include any wide receivers, nor hardly any tight ends. In the meantime, Jon Gruden over there is seeing that one of the things our D can't stop is the tight end over the middle. Guess what he's doing over and over again? But our tight ends may as well have not been in the game.
The game is 60 minutes - sometimes 70. The Bears lost much of this game in the first 30, when the D was being dominant and getting turnovers and the offense wasn't doing what it is paid to do, take advantage of those turnovers. The fact that RT woke up for two series in this long game, then WENT TO SLEEP AGAIN, should not let you take your eye off of who's to blame. The D was not successful in saving the baby that was inexplicably laying in the middle of intersection. How'd the baby get there? (Ask Ron Turner).
Jeff, watch again, you'll see that the defense did a whole lot of good things in that game, the offense did a whole little. You've got to add it all up together.
Matt Forte, you're not part of this condemnation of O. Brandon Lloyd, nor you. I think the only real goat on O who was playing out there is (once again) Rashied Davis, who I know is trying hard, but is really screwing things up for us. MARK BRADLEY, are you out there? EARL BENNETT, are you out there? BRANDON RIDEAU, are you out there? LOOKING FOR A #2.
DAVE TOUB FOR INTERIM OC!
September 22, 2008
#23 pankster in nc said . . .I like how Lovie put it post-game. 'I put the blame on everyone starting with myself' or something like that. It seems he may finally be seeing the things we see.
September 22, 2008
#24 Da Coach said . . .this week starting with angelo and let the shit roll down to his coaching staff we as a bears nation need to do some soul searching and pull all their heads out of there ass's and be prepared for a eagles team that is beat up westbrook,mcnabb and a few others this a perfect time to finish on sunday night on national tv and turn this ship around that is moving fast up shit creek!!!
bear down!!!September 22, 2008
#25 BearDown1982 said . . .Before season started I had the Bears pegged at 2-2 through Sept. Sucks that we really should be 3-0 at this point but a win next weekend and we are right where I thought they would be. I thought Sept was the toughest strectch of games so lets hope they turn this around and play a complete game next sun night.
September 22, 2008
#26 Shady said . . .Defense apologists...save it already!
It seems like everytime we lose in the 4th quarter, everyone just says that the defense was gased. Gimme a fucking break. We led time of possesion going into the 4th quarter. If all it takes for our defense to get tired is the other team going into a no huddle...that is a bunch of bull shit.
We had a 10 point lead at home with just over 6 minutes to go and the defense crapped the bed. It is that simple guys.
Before the season started, we ALL knew that whatever we got from the offense this year would be a bonus. We knew that the Bears would win with defense and special teams.
Did the offense look spectacular yesterday? Hell no. The point is, this defense should not let us lose a game like this to an average quarterback at home who is missing his best wide receiver.
Mike Brown said it best yesterday...a la 2005 after the Brown loss...this time, he simply said that yesterday's performance was disgusting. And he is right.
September 22, 2008
#27 Viva said . . .I don't really understand the whole blame game here, is this really going to help?
The offense fucked up the 1st half.
The defense blew the 2nd.
The refs didn't help us out either, but the point is the TEAM made too many mistakes to win and couldn't FINISH the game.
No doubt this is going to be a rough week for Bears fans.
And speaking of Bears fans, I never knew how many shitty so called "Bears Fans" there are out there. It's truly embarrassing to be associated with such pathetic people. A true testament to your fanhood is how you behave when things are going terribly wrong, and in the 1st half I couldn't believe how many fans were jumping ship and talking shit about the entire team. Also, using this loss as an opportunity to bash Kyle Orton and promote the 'other guy' is bullshit, I could actually hear other fans rooting against Kyle just so they could see their boy Rex again. I couldn't believe it.
September 22, 2008
#28 Bring in Rex said . . .We need to convert at least one of the 3 field goals in the first half to a TD.
September 22, 2008
#29 Phillip from NYC said . . .Get Rex in there to provide the spark this team needs to get going.
Here is something to ponder:
Why does it always look like Kyle Orton is throwing into the wind?
September 22, 2008
#30 Viva said . . .The Tillman call was the second genuinely god-awful call I've seen from the stripes in three weeks of football. I find this inexcusable, and am feeling VERY PISSED OFF right now.
September 22, 2008
#31 BearDown1982 said . . .#28 stole my line...
September 22, 2008
#32 To Shady said . . .The Tillman call was pretty bad...BUT he did run into the mix so he was asking to be flagged. It was a dumb play on his part...you defend your teammate yes, but not if it could effect the outcome of a game. I'm pretty sure our Wele can hold his own and doesn't need Peanut's assistance..that's just me.
Although, I do wish that late in games...regs would be more willing to huddle up and flag BOTH teams if it was clearly an altercation that isn't one sided. This altercation was started by a Buc...and in my opinion...both teams should have received offsetting flags, especially at that stage in the game. I don't understand why this logic is so difficult to grasp by NFL regs.
September 22, 2008
Well said. The Blame Game has become the national passtime but you describe the tolal picture IMHO.
With respect to your last para. Perhaps all the closet "Kyle Fucking Orton" haters are feeling brave soon to be led by PO'd.
September 22, 2008
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