Note: Vote. Seriously...it's quite a cool thing we got going on here.
What has to be wrong with an individual's personal existence for them to boo the back-up quarterback of a first place football team when he comes into a game in an attempt to lead the team to victory? What has to be missing when he/she looks in the bathroom mirror each morning?
Rex Grossman is not a great quarterback. Hell, he might not even be a good quarterback. But it looks like Sunday he is going to be the quarterback for the Chicago Bears. If you plan to attend Sunday's game and trash him, do me a favor: sell your damn tickets to someone else. Sell them to some kid who relishes every opportunity to see his ballclub play. Sell them at discount to the out-of-towner who considers a visit to Soldier Field like a trip to the Holy Land. Hell, I don't care if you sell them to a Titans fan. I just don't want you there.
Brian Urlacher says about Rex, "Lucky for him he's resilient and he came back and led us to two scoring drives. But man, it's tough." The question is simple: would you rather win Sunday or see Rex fail? If the answer is the latter, you're not a fan of this team and I'd prefer you spend a few minutes each day somewhere else. If you want this team to win a big game against a big time team, let #8 know you're behind him Sunday. Even if only for a few weeks.
In the meantime, take another look in that mirror. Maybe it's not Rex you hate so much.
P.S. Seriously...go vote.
#2 nutjob said . . .http://reneepussman.blogspot.com
This is the best thing ever!!!
November 4, 2008
#3 BSamps said . . .This Blog actually sucks and if you think thats the best thing ever you really need to get a life!!
November 4, 2008
#4 BSamps said . . .Renee Pussman and nutjob need to get a life. if ur whole life is ripping on someone else u got problems. get a life
November 4, 2008
#5 TCramps said . . .Renee Pussman and nutjob need to get a life. if ur whole life is ripping on someone else u got problems. get a life
November 4, 2008
#6 BearsTransplant said . . .Bear down cramps!
November 4, 2008
#7 Titans/Bears Fan said . . .Wow. An entire blog comparing Rex Grossman to hateful gay stereotypes. Impressive. Can we put the 8th-grade humor behind us, please? It's a little 2002 at this point.
On a side note, not a Rex fan, but there's no way I would ever boo my own player. I'll boo a decision that a coach makes (punting from the 37, for example), but never a player.
November 4, 2008
#8 Peanut FTW said . . .Wow, this is a tough game for me. Born in Chicago, always been a Bears fan, live in Tennessee, been a Titans fan since they moved here - the last game I watched between these two teams was back in the 90's and was played at Vanderbilt here in Nashville. (Note: It was probably the most horribly boring and overall bad football game I've ever watched).
So obviously I hate to be put in this position. I would love for the Titans to remain ubeaten, but if they have to lose, what better team to lose to than the Bears led by Sexy Rexy?
In all seriousness, I agree with everything you say in your post, and honestly the Bears are in a great position that Rex can come in and CAN win, not many teams have as good of a #2 as the Bears do. The Bears are more than capable of winning on Sunday - they have the ability to force the Titans to pass the ball, something they haven't been forced to do yet. It all depends which Bears defense shows up to play...and as for Rex, he needs to let Forte make some plays and HAS TO avoid turnovers - manage the game, keep it close, and they'll have a chance to establish themselves as a true contendor in the NFC.
But, if I was a betting man, I like the Titans chances. So for a prediction I'll go Titans 20 - Bears 17. BEAR DOWN AND TITAN UP!
November 4, 2008
#9 Duff Diggler said . . .Well jeff I think your off base here for the first time since I've read the blog. I really don't see a direct correlation between booing Rex's continuous suck job and not liking the Bears. Yes I want the Bears to win so I wish that Rex would play well but if in fact he is continuing to struggle, and when he struggles it is severe, then his getting booed has nothing to do with the fans feelings towards the team. It has to do with the dogged stubborness to continue to start a player who has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is a draft bust simply because you used a 1st round pick on him. Rex is the only person who can shut up the boo birds , simply convert some first downs, don't overlook wide open players for the shot at making a highlight reel, and don't be stupid. If he can do that, people will stop booing because well there is nothing to boo about. So I just feel that your plea should be redirected to Rex, since if he plays well, there won't be reason to boo him and the Bears probably win.
November 4, 2008
#10 Peanut FTW said . . .I'm all for booing....
Chicago Bears football is a product that we buy. If we don't like something about it, it is both our right and responsibility to let it be known.
Say you order a steak medium rare, and it comes back well done. You send it back. Does that make you not a "true fan" of steak? ...or maybe the restaurant you are attending?
HOWEVER....
....the booing of the sex cannon is out of control! This kid has given nothing but his all throughout his career. I have never seen someone fail as he has (and succeed) and be able to keep his head up as high as he has, and deal with the crowd/media as he has.
He deserves some credit. He won that last game for us, and you can truely tell he cares about this team. I know the slack on his leash is extremely tight, but lets try and loosen it, at least for a little bit.
Lets get one thing strait. Regardless of what he does in the next few weeks, i think we all know he wont be here next year. So lets bear down.......
......but if that Titans D burns that meat to a crisp, best believe i'm sending it back, and ordering myself a nice 16oz slab of rare calib hania!
November 4, 2008
#11 jdawg said . . .I've also been reading across this blog and some others how horrid Bears fans are for booing Rex. If you really wanna watch some fed up, pathetic fans watch a detroit game. Did you see our first game against them? When we would score, especially when Peanut scored on the INT the fans would cheer for us; that is pathetic.
November 4, 2008
#12 Duff Diggler said . . .Rex was booed on his first incompletion and whatever happened to the city of big shoulders?
November 4, 2008
#13 Peanut FTW said . . .....vote obama
November 4, 2008
#14 Peanut FTW said . . .Rex won the detroit game for us? Really? Im pretty sure the combo of Matt Forte, the O-line stunts, and our D actually playing football won the game for us. Rex was along for the ride, you cant post a 49 QB rating and say you helped win anything with a straight face. It's like saying a guy on a bowling team that chokes and bowls a 100 but manages to be on the winning team because the other 4 guys bowl 300s helped to carry the team to victory. No they were able to beat Detroit in spite of Rex's performance not because of it.
November 4, 2008
#15 Bill said . . .I am gonna shift gears here to a positive note. Holy crap what a pick by Steltz! Even watching the replay I thought it was a TD, Steltz looked out of position and I was sure he was beat, took me a second to even realize why he was running the other way so fast, oh cuz he has the damn football. Man I guess white men can jump.
November 4, 2008
#16 Phil from SATX said . . .There is another poster named Bill who was defending Rex on another post. I'm the "old guy" here who saw his first game in Wrigley Field in the mid 60s.
Anyway - as a PSL holder, I look at booing this way. It's the opposite of cheering. I think fans have a right. Now I didnt' boo Rex when he came in last week, nor did I boo his first couple of shaky passes. But I DID boo once or twice, and maybe it was unfair.
Of course he was rusty - and at least he didn't turn the ball over carelessly. But somehow - maybe unfairly - I expected better than 9-19 against the Lions. I certainly expect a solid perormance this week - a tough D not withstanding. He has to show that he's capable of being a starter - not just a capable backup.
This game could well have been a loss even with KO. So maybe the work will help Rex assuming he has to play against GB. THAT'S the big game for him.
BTW - I haven't read all the posts - but did anyone realize Mark Bradley could throw? I still would liek to know what the deal was with him.
November 4, 2008
#17 Luke said . . .Do you mind if I repost? I got caught at the end again.
And before I do, I totally agree with Jeff's post. I always hated the concept of booing your own players. The only time that's acceptable is if you're seeing a lack of effort (something that happens sometimes at the end of ass-whippings). Otherwise it's ridiculous, and by the way it doesn't help your team AT ALL, so if you boo you're basically doing something selfish, that makes you feel good, at the expense of your team. Not illegal or anything, just not helpful and can in fact lead to poorer play on the part of your team.
Rex has always comported himself well. He's done the best he can. His physical limitations are also not his fault. I actually think he may be one of the classiest guys on the Bears. Sometimes he doesn't play great. So what?
Here's my repost - tell me how you like my inverted e.p. BTW, I haven't even clicked through to pussman's link - I hate it on principle when other people come here to entice us to other places. It's cheap.
Great posts today by all. Bearman you have been very good of late, imo. I honestly think that, as sick as it sounds, some of our aging D superstars may be at the core of what's happening on D. I'm thinking about Brian U, Mike B, maybe even Ogun who has been VERY quiet this year, and Tommie, while not aging, has really been almost entirely absent. Having all four of these guys underperform this year has really changed the D.
I can only hope that B Patch, Lovie and Angelo see the same thing, and are capable of either coaching better play or shifting some players. Otherwise we may just have to accept a sub-par D this year, which as Shonbear points out, is totally emBEARassing and UNACCEPTABLE!
Let's focus on some positives -
1) Kevin Payne's play
2) Briggs is still a stud - how about that game-changing play?
3) IZZY PLAYS WITH PASSION
4) We still have PNUT
5) Garrett Wolfe can LAY THE WOOD on special teams! Want to make him an inspiration to my oldest son, who plays football from a very small frame.
6) Devin Hester ALMOST broke one towards the end of that game - the horse collar was the only thing that stopped him - so he's revving up. (Looked like crap prior to that in that game, however)
7) Matt Forte!
8) Speaking of Matt Forte!, (that's my new nickname for him - just an exclamation point that follows him everywhere he goes) (I wish he was Hispanic, then he could be ¡Matt Forte!) (heyyyy.... that's kinda cool!)anyhoo... speaking of ¡Matt Forte!, Rex is going to LOVE what it's like playing with this kid, especially in his blitz pickups.
9) Rex is also going to love playing with our new line.
10) Did you see Chris Williams being worked in on special teams? I did! That's our #1 draft pick folks!
11) How about Craig Steltz's interception? That was alright!What else? There's more, I'm sure!
GO BEARS!
November 4, 2008
#18 Al In WI said . . .AMEN!!
November 4, 2008
#19 Phil from SATX said . . .Well said Jeff, well said. I can understand booing a guy who is throwing 3 or 4 interceptions or something. But I don't get booing him just for taking the field. Or for doing what we all begged him to do in 2006; throw the ball away instead of into coverage. That is bullshit.
November 4, 2008
#20 Pankster In North Carolina said . . .And Peanut, Rex certainly did help us win by throwing a tough TD throw in a tight spot, also by doing a very tough QB sneak into the end zone. Neither of those two things can be considered "in spite of Rex, not because of" or "along for the ride." Got to disagree with you there. The rating wasn't great, there were lots of incompletions, there was a tipped ball INT, but he did help win the game for the Bears - 14 points right there by my count.
I voted early - Go Obama!
(and Duff - I love it when military men and women support Obama, because it seems like it's never been the case in the past - just yesterday I was talking with a Texas state senator who's son is a Marine and he said there're many military people who will be voting Obama even if the institution itself seems to always align with the other side)
At least I think we can all agree that we're all better off Bushless no matter what happens.
November 4, 2008
#21 Max said . . .I am A 70% disabled Veteran who voted for Obama and am anxious to see results and hopefully he wins! Its time for a change and Bear The Fuck Down!!!
November 4, 2008
#22 jdawg said . . .First off: Go Rex. I support booing, its a part of the game, but booing a man as he runs in before even taking a snap is bullshit. . . period. And I know there are going to be people there that will boo Rex as he runs onto the field before his first series next week and those people are jackasses. Thats all I am going to say about that.
Secondly, I still hope KO comes back soon. I hope (and honestly think) that Rex wont play bad, but I do believe Orton was on pace for a possible Pro Bowl trip.
Third, it took me 45 minutes to catch up on all the posts and comments and I actually tried to read most of them and seriously, our defense could be in big trouble this week. I understand the Titans are a running team and that Kerry Collins is old but Dan Orlovsky just picked us apart (as did Matt Ryan, and Gus Frerotte to an extent, and Brian Griese)
My point is that we can take an average QB and make him look great and I have a fear that we could and will do it again this week. No prediction yet, but some serious drinking might be necessary this sunday. . . even if its at 8 a.m.
Last point: WHERE IS PO'ED!?!?!?!? and Midway. The regulars ive come to enjoy reading are disappearing. PO'ed needs to be here cause if there is anyway that can make me feel confident that Rex will be awesome this week and lead us to a victory, its him.
Bear Down baby
November 4, 2008
#23 Pankster said . . .I'm an Obama supported but I'm worried that this thread is going to get sidetracked.
Anyway, it is what it is. Rex is starting against what could be the best D we face all year.
Can anyone do a little "cold-as-shit" equivalent of a rain dance up there?
I haven't seen the Titans all year. What kind of D-line do they have? Could we wear them down in the 2nd half with a no-huddle?
I don't think this is going to be a shoot-out so maybe that would give us a chance. It worked initially against Philly.
just a thought.
November 4, 2008
#24 Al In WI said . . .to bad the "FLEX schedule" doesnt kick in till week 11 or else we would be on sunday night football
November 4, 2008
#25 Phil from SATX said . . .Regarding the post if there is anyone out there who fits Jeff's description and wants to get rid of his tickets, let me know. I'd love to drive 7 hours to get a chance to see Grossman and the Bears beat the Titans. I would love it!!
Anyway, Babich is an issue at DC. I think in 2009 we'll see Rod (HC of the Lions) take that position. Seriously it's a simple concept; if you get a team in third and long blitz and force them to throw quickly and thereby short.
I honestly can't think of a player outside of Alex Brown, who has played consistantly well on Defense this year. Can anyone else?
Early prediction: Bears 27 Titans 24. Grossman to Booker late to win the game.November 4, 2008
#26 Al In WI said . . .Al, you must live in the UP or something! Seven hours gets you all the way to the top of WI and then some! Of course maybe you're factoring in stops for brewery tours and cheese shops, so maybe you're right.
To your list I'll add:
Peanut
Kevin Payne
Briggs
Izzy, when he playsdat's it
November 4, 2008
#27 SALUKI said . . .Phil, I'm right on the MN border about 1.5 hrs north of the twin cities. So I have to go all the way across WI to get to Chi-town.
I'd agree with Izzy, and maybe Paine especially considering his youth/inexperience. But I don't count peanut as the secondary has been torched far too much, and I don't think he's done much in the last couple of games. And Briggs has had nice games and then disappeared for stretches much like Urlacher.November 4, 2008
#28 Phil from SATX said . . .PRAISE THE LORD! LETS GO SEXY REXY!
November 4, 2008
#29 Rancid said . . .Al - Superior?
November 4, 2008
#30 Phil from SATX said . . .I could see myself booing playcalls moreso than players. For example, the continuing rushes given to Mckie. I would boo that. But in my opinion that is booing the OC. I think the best point is that Rex goes through crap before he even makes a mistake. That's foolish of fans because the goal is to win and that simply doesn't help. Oh, and since you all started it I'll say I'm more optomistic about the Detroit Lions becoming a winning Super Bowl ball club than I am about any politician actually giving a rats ass about the people. Screw 'em all. BOOOOOO
November 4, 2008
#31 Phil from SATX said . . .Also, I think we have to give Peanut a pass - he's really been hurt, and he played hurt in some of those games.
Briggs - I guess you're right - sometimes he disappears, and he's had a few high-profile missed tackles. Not like last year though.
November 4, 2008
#32 jeff said . . .Remember when Brian Urlacher used to make plays like Briggs' game-winner in the last game, and make them game after game? Him I don't really blame, because I think age has just caught up with him.
Tommie I blame. He's young.
November 4, 2008
#33 jdawg said . . .by the way, i didn't mention senator obama a single time. i want all my political detractors to acknowledge this.
have you acknowledged this?
good.
GOBAMA!
November 4, 2008
#34 Willie from Chicago said . . .watched the game last night.
Man, Pitt has a real D. They have an attitude and they all fly to the ball like they're posessed.
You know, the one game I remember clearly when Lovie was a D coordinator was the Ram's loss to the Patriots in the SB. Remember, the D blew it at the end of the game. Sound familiar?
November 4, 2008
#35 Rancid said . . .Guys, what I’ve been noticing of kids in my high school is that they are mostly fair weathered ban wagon fans, kids like teams simply because they are currently the “hot” team. For example, a kid in my Bio class was a Cowboys fan in the beginning of the year and now he is a Giants fan, what is going on here? It seems to me that being a true fan means nothing anymore. Maybe its because I live in Florida and the people here are like that, but when I lived in Chicago, everyone was a Bears fan. The people here are pathetic.
November 4, 2008
#36 Rancid said . . .It has its place jeff. It's your blog, its your right to do with it what you want. I've stated that opinion before. I just hope (and have confidence in you) that it will always be Bears first. Just as long as I have the right to be the bitter crotchety disenfranchised guy.
November 4, 2008
#37 Peanut FTW said . . .Willie - get used to it. It's a scenario you will see re-created in office complexes (or whatever career you choose) for the rest of your life. I think I saw the last of the Colts fans here fade away this year. There was quite a few of them just a year or two ago. Hmmmm.... wonder where they went?
Pity them, they have no soul. Better to have the soul of the devil (GB) than no soul at all. I seriously would rather be with a die hard Pack fan than some guy who changes all the time. It's a sad fact of life.
November 4, 2008
#38 Willie from Chicago said . . .Phil, the sneak from the one... Forte had just ripped off 3 consecutive 9+ yard running plays and robbing him of a TD by sneaking it instead of giving him a shot to punch it in is not doing anything for the team much less proving anything as far as value of a QB, pretty sure Hanie could have taken the snap and fell on Olin just as well. His TD pass was a 6 yard pass to a starting WR that they covered with a 2nd string safety, anybody makes that throw but yes he did throw 1 TD pass. He also threw a pick, and threw for less than 50% completion. I mean a 49 passer rating wtf? And people are shocked that hes getting booed. This is unbeleiveable. I'm not hell bent that Rex can't turn around with reps this week and next and get us through this, I actually think he can, I think he can make some hellaciously accurate passes at times, hes just stupid. But to hear people perplexed and upset that he got booed when he posts a lower passer rating than Dan Orlovsky against the 2nd worst team in the NFL aganst the pass.. and to hear people make an ignorant statement like he led us to a victory is just nonsense. More like he got drug to victory hanging on to Forte's jersey.
November 4, 2008
#39 Phil from SATX said . . .Rancid, your right man, however i can avoid living the rest of my life dealing with these bandwagoners by moving back to chicago.
Speaking of which, Ive been working for a while now so i can afford going up to chicago for the packers game on December 21st but tickets are much too expensive, does anyone know where to get tickets on the cheaper side?
November 4, 2008
#40 Willie from Chicago said . . .Peanut - the thing is, Rex was booed from the get-go, just out of habit. That sucks. And that was a nifty little pass to Rash (it was him right? or Booker) - and I agree that it would have been nice to get ¡Matt Forte! (ay ay ay) the TD, he doesn't care and it was a nice boost for Rex, who WE NEED TO PLAY WELL AND WITH CONFIDENCE - even if it's just for one game.
Also, Rancid rules.
November 4, 2008
#41 Peanut FTW said . . .Jeff ofr president!
November 4, 2008
#42 zmac said . . .I agree booing him from the get go was silly but again all the more reason for him to prove them wrong not right. Also he is 90% gone from Chicago next season so he should be playing his ass off anyway to land a free agent deal. He shouldn't need any boost, there's really noone else right now with more to gain than he has. But I agree that Matty doesn't care; I am still sore that the NFL has gone to this let the horse get us 98 yards and then bring in the excon to dive the last 2 yards and get the touchdown (goalline specialist) crap. I just think of the TD as the reward for a hard days work for the RB position and feel Matty deserves a lot that they've given to the FB and now Grossman. And to be fair the last 2 games Urlacher has started to show up, so has Tommie. Harris has 2 sacks in the last 2 games and Urlacher picked up and blanketed AP on a key third and medium and had a hurry on Orlovsky to get a 3 and out on their 2nd to last drive. I really hope the D can keep comin around and get this season on a steady track because the roller coaster ride is giving me motion sickness.
November 4, 2008
#43 zmac said . . .I dont think booing a terrible thing... but booing Rex as he gets onto the field or on every incompletion is a bit much. Also, you cant base Rex's performance entirely on his QB rating... in fact since when has QB rating become the end all in determining the success of a QB. A QB off the bench that comes in and doesnt make a mistake and helps in 2 scoring drives did well enough, especially when the team won.
BTW, I am still pissed that Forte didnt get to run that TD in. Stupid penalty and then letting McKie run and Rex run it in didnt seem right. Every now and then I'd like to see Forte rewarded when he leads an entire drive.
November 4, 2008
#44 Phil from SATX said . . .#39, PHIL: It kind of looked like Forte cared when he was on the sideline
November 4, 2008
#45 Ronaldo said . . .Peanut, don't really disagree with anything you said there. Especially about that I like the concept of rewarding the horse that dragged you there with the TD. Not sure which ex-con you're referring to though.
I think ¡Forte! could be doing so much better than he is right now if RT tweaked the running plays more. I know RT saw the success he had in the second half, and that clearly was an adjustment from the first. So hopefully that's carried on into next week's game. I really believe that if you give Matty an inch, he'll do his part to make it a mile. But he needs that metaphorical inch. And as much as he started scampering in that game, he was very close to breaking a bunch more yards several times - could have easily had a +150 game.
Come on RT - make it happen!
November 4, 2008
#46 Ronaldo said . . .Phil, I have to agree with Peanut FTW. Forte made that drive, sneaking it in from 2 feet is not a major accomplishment. Heck, Brad Johnson can do that. If anything, Olin deserves kudos for finally creating some space. Let's be real.
That being said, I want a Bears win this Sunday, I don't care how it gets done. But in 3-4 weeks, when Orton is healthy, I don't want another QB debate, no matter how well we do with Rex in there. This is Orton's team, he's earned it through the first 8 games. He's one of the top 3 QBs in the NFC before he got hurt. Any debate in 2-4 weeks is ridiculous.
Booing, like most things in life, is fine in moderation. If you fumble snaps, throw 3 INTs, and generally suck: you deserve to get booed. Sheeet, Jeff, if your blog sucked, we'd "boo" by not visiting your site. And many of us cheer you on when you write well. But if you boo because #8 dares to breath on the field, that's ridiculous.
Late breaking report in Chi, Orton may be back in a couple weeks.
November 4, 2008
#47 Viva said . . .Oh yeah...Barack the vote.
November 5, 2008
#48 Robbie said . . .America was a nation founded on the principles of Individual Rights, and Property Rights. Rugged Individualists - not statists. Small Government - not communism lite.
When you choose to support a candidate that will enslave the productive members of our society to a collective end you lose my support.
When you support a candidate that views the Constitution as an obstacle to his redistributive ends, you lose my support.
When you chose to support a candidate that will confiscate even more of my labor you piss me off. So each and every one of you bastards that mentioned Obama's name can kiss my ass. You are on my shit list. In the meantime, piss off.
November 5, 2008
#49 RandomName said . . .Viva, get a grip. If you want to argue Constitutional intent and law, you're sorely out of your element. Stick with football. You don't know the beginning, or the end, of constitutional law. To add to the irony, you seem to be the one discouraging free speech.
Get a grip. People are allowed to articulate their preference in this country. There's ways to do that without being an antagonistic cock-sucker.
November 5, 2008
#50 Shady said . . .I actually like Rex, he reminds me of a friend.
wish people wouldn't boo him, those idiots. let him throw the damn ball first.
well like Urlacher said, it must be tough.
November 5, 2008
#51 animal said . . .Well, the moment most of us (including myself) thought would happen, happened.
We are going to see "the other guy" this year.
Like we thought, the starting QB suffered an injury and both Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman are going to see playing time this season.
Best case scenario? Grossman returns to his early '06 form and lights up the scoreboard for the next 4 games in place of Kyle, thereby creating ANOTHER QB competition in the process. It would give the Bears more leverage in the Orton negotiations, and the Bears would have 2 QBs they could rely on, something I didn't think I'd ever say in my lifetime.
Obviously losing Orton creates an uncomfortable situation for most Bears fans. You lose a reliable and consistent QB in Orton and you're handed a QB who has been consistently inconsistent. Of course you're gonna root for him (like you have in the past) but every time that long ball goes up, or every time he takes an 8 step drop in the face of tremendous pressure, you're gonna be on the edge of your seat yelling "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD" because Grossman = drama if nothing else.
If he can manage to go 2-2 or better through the next 4 weeks while avoiding those avalanches of turnovers, I'll be a happy guy. However, in order for Rex to accomplish that, he'll need to show that he's been working hard in waiting for this opportunity we all knew would eventually come knocking. Not working hard on improving the deep ball, but improving on taking what opposing defenses give him. Orton succeeded by checking down his progressions and finding the open player, even if that meant dumping it off for a short gain instead of forcing the issue.
Orton also had success by avoiding the pass rush and the blitz by stepping up in the pocket and getting rid of the ball. If Grossman shows he has indeed made those improvements in his game, he will succeed because of an improved running game and line play when compared to last year. But if Rex continues to make familiar mistakes and shows no signs of improvement, you can expect those boo birds to shit all over Grossman's parade.
While talking about the QB situation is fun, it's the defense that's become the real issue here, by the way. They have to decide sooner or later if they're for real or not this year, we may just find out on Sunday.
November 5, 2008
#52 do said . . .Jeff I usually agree, or at the most mildly disagree.
However, if you think this fan base does not have ample reason to despise Rex, and to be crushed by losing Orton after what he has done, you are fucking nuts and wrong.
"Look in the mirror..." Don't try so hard to psychoanalyze. You are not the only educated professional who views the soap opera that is our favorite franchise, and you don't need to condescend those who are disgusted by a promising era of Bears football wasted by sticking too long with an incompetent quarterback. Just because some fans hate Rex does not mean they loathe themselves, or the team. People just hate Rex. He cost us so much, hurt us so much, embarrassed us so much and it is magnified, compounded, by the fact that Orton has done so well.
Nobody would wish us to lose, and nobody hopes Rex will have a bad game. If you were talking to me at all, Ill tell you again that I predict a bad day and a lot of Rex mistakes this week. Does that mean I HOPE that will happen or want it to happen? Fuck no, I'm not retarded, just practical. Ill be cheering my ass off if he plays well, but history has shown us how that usually turns out.
I like you, Jeff. I like your insights and your blog. But don't tell fans how to feel. Don't tell anyone how to feel. If we want to hate him for the damage done and the promise wasted and the super bowl dreams destroyed, that is the right of the fan, like it or not.
Personally, Ill be rooting for Rex. Personally, I won't boo him. The last guy I boo'd was Curtis the Penis Enis. But the fans that do have good reason, especially after his first fumbled snap this Sunday. It is our right, and you and underachieving 54 should recognize that.
November 5, 2008
#53 Joist said . . .First of all I will say that I am not the biggest Rex fan, but I do hope that he does really, really well in the game on Sunday.
However, this might be the worst time for rex to come in as our QB. Think about what Rex struggles with the most, a good pash rush up the middle, and Albert Haynesworth is playing out of his mind. I wish Rex all the best and I think we will beat the Titans this weekend but I think it will be Hester and the D that will do it for us.
Just remeber guys, we are in first place, with a QB that played for us when we went to the superbowl 2 years ago.
Jeff said it best, In Rex we must trust.
November 5, 2008
#54 Brian in Sec 430 Row 25 said . . .Ugh.
I'm seeing some seriously ignorant comments here. It would be nice if people took the time to read the intent of what others say instead of just blasting away.
Animal et al: Jeff was NOT saying that you don't have a RIGHT to boo Rex. He was not saying that you don't have a REASON to boo Rex. Of course you have both of those. What he's saying is that, on this particular day, especially given the backup QB situation (even the most ardent of Rex haters cringe at the though of Caleb Hanie jogging into the huddle to face the Titans), it is not a good idea to boo Rex. The reason it's a bad idea is because booing can't possibly help Rex, and it is likely to have a negative effect.
In a normal situation, with a healthy Brian Griese or Kyle Orton on the sideline, it makes sense to boo Rex because, as somebody pointed out, you're not really (or at least not only) booing Rex, you're booing the Bears' decision to stick with Rex when he clearly sucks. In this situation, all you are likely to do is make Rex perform worse, which will lead to either a) a blowout win by the Titans, b) Rex getting yanked for CALEB FREAKING HANIE, or c) probably both. If you honestly believe that Caleb Hanie is better off, then I agree with Jeff, you need to do some soul-searching.
Oh, and to you morons who say, "The Bears stuck with Grossman too long"...really? He played at an MVP-caliber level through the first six games of the season. In '07, he started, what, 5 games before getting benched for Griese? Then Griese outsucked him and they went back to Rex. You could argue that they should have gone to Kyle at that point instead of waiting for Rex to get injured, but the point is this: the Bears BY NO MEANS stuck with Rex for too long. How long did Joey Harrington play for the Lions? How long was David Carr on the Texans? The Bears essentially benched Rex after one season's worth of subpar performance. That is an extremely quick hook by NFL standards, especially NFL first-round pick standards.
On a side note, congrats to Obama. I voted for McCain, and I have serious reservations about the economic future, but I will support President-elect Obama, and his ascension to the White House is but one example of what makes this country great.
November 5, 2008
#55 Peanut FTW said . . .Animal, I think you are taking Rex's performance over the past few years a little too far ......."He cost us so much, hurt us so much, embarrassed us so much"
The guy threw some picks and fumbled some footballs....we all need a little perspective. Rex did not take over the 1993 Dallas Cowboys or the 1985 Chicago Bears..At best, the teams Rex led were slightly above average. No one expected the 2006 Chicago Bears to go to the Super Bowl and we did....and it was not because the other 21 players were future hall of famers. Rex is not a pro-bowl caliber quarterback and probably never will but to suggest Rex "cost us so much" or "embarrassed us so much" is putting way too much emphasis on one player (see Chris Harris missing his assignment in XLI)
Rex is just a football player, nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunantly, the spotlight on the quarterback position makes statements like yours more the rule than the exception.
November 5, 2008
#56 Kyle said . . .#52 Rex was good for 5 games in 06 , game 6 was the infamous Arizona game. IMHO what people are sick of is that it was apparant from early on that he is undersized and immobile, making him risky anyway; then inconsistentcy came along in game 6 and hung around the whole season also with that came the problems with ball security and the inability to throw a screen pass or look off a safety. Add in the health issues and it was very apparent after 06 that he was not the answer. He was given time to learn the O and the knowledge going in to 06 that he was the starter, HE blew it. Yet here we are 2 years later watching the same guy march on to the field, yes he has been here too long; he should have been a backup last year so we could have seen KOs evolution sooner, allowed his contract to expire and kept griese; or better yet picked up Garcia in 07 and developed KO behind him.
November 5, 2008
#57 Luke said . . .deangelo hall to be released by the raiders. that'd be a nice addition to a piss-poor secondary.
November 5, 2008
#58 jdawg said . . .A Bears fan will now take residence at the White House. Sleep tight America, and bear down.
November 5, 2008
#59 Phillip from NYC said . . .I hope his first executive order is that the Bears must stunt more on the D line and the corners must jam the receivers more.
November 5, 2008
#60 do said . . .Luke & JDawg, LOL. Love it. And for everyone else:
Remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WJsuM19-8c
November 5, 2008
#61 Peanut FTW said . . .Peanut, did I once say that Rex was a pro bowl level quarterback or that I expect him to come in and play as well as Kyle has played this year? No. I simply said that he played well enough through the season to allow us to get to the superbowl. Granted we had a better defense but I will take our running game from this year over the 06 running game. The Oline has played pretty well this season as far as pass blocking is concerned and if Rex is given time he can be a pretty lethal weapon especially going down field. And guess what we have one of the quickest receivers in the NFL in Hester, and Rex throws a GREAT deep ball. I think we will be ok, at least for a few weeks.
November 5, 2008
#62 mikebdot said . . .Sorry do I meant #53
November 5, 2008
#63 Max said . . .Wonder if they're ready to make the move...check out the left tackle position:
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/depthchart.asp
Apparently we have two second string players...
November 5, 2008
#64 mikebdot said . . .I support booing. . . just not when the man hasn't taken a snap all season. Not when he hasn't gotten the chance to fuck up yet.
Rex has caused us some pain in the past and KO has shown to be a better QB in my opinion, but I say at least let the man throw a couple times before you decide to hang him. It does no good to boo him when you have no idea what to expect from him. Literally.
Did he post a 49 QB rating. Yup. Did some passes get batted and did he throw a pick? Absolutely. Did he throw a touchdown to Rashied and score the go ahead touchdown himself? You bet your ass. Does that make him alright in my book? No not yet, but he certainly is on the right track and i thought he did well enough to not get booed.
But again, this is all my opinion and those who booed have every right to. . . I just think less of them when they boo before he has even taken a snap this year. Thats all.
November 5, 2008
#65 Phil from SATX said . . .Kyle: I wouldn't mind picking him up either...but we don't have room on the roster. I suppose we could release Fred Miller...
November 5, 2008
#66 Bearman on the Sangamon said . . .Joist, I know I couldn't have said it better myself. Great post.
Jeff, I certainly hope you're in your lab concocting what I know will be an incredibly moving and eloquent Obamapost, quite likely the best thing you've ever written.
No pressure, man. Deadline's at 12:00 p.m. Eastern. You have 17 minutes.
November 5, 2008
#67 NittyGritty34 said . . .As seemingly the only McCain supporter who subscribes to this blog, I attempt to make light of this situation.
"I mean, Barack was who we thought he was. Barack was who we thought he was. BARACK IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS! And that's why we took the damn field! Now, if you want to crown him then crown his ass! But Barack was who we thought he was!"
November 5, 2008
#68 24 Bear said . . .Can we kick Pussman off the blog please? Oh and Bears Transplant, if you're a fan of two teams, you're really a fan of none.
November 5, 2008
#69 said . . .Thought you guys might like this....
http://www.break.com/pictures_nsfw/sporty-girl-with-mirror599864.html
November 5, 2008
#70 Hold the phone bitches said . . ....And we let McCain off the hook. (Thank God)!
November 5, 2008
#71 Bitches said . . .As a staunch Rex supporter (and Mccain supporter, thats for Bearman) it is with a heavy heart I regret to offer this news up:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3684290
Kyle fans rejoice....then go hang yourselves.
November 5, 2008
#72 GREAT NEWS said . . .but I will say this. Kyle has never had an injury in his life so he doesnt have a clue what he is talking about. He might think he's improving everyday but duh...thats whats supposed to happen. He doesnt realize that his mobility will be shot (not that he had any to begin with) and the pain will be unbearable for at least a couple weeks yet. I'm sticking with the idea that he'll be out 3-4 weeks on accout that he has no clue about injuries, even his own.
November 5, 2008
#73 Mike said . . .Orton Might Play Sunday!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3684290
November 5, 2008
#74 Mike said . . .Nice post. I'm sick of people booing their own teams, particularly Rex and several Bulls players every time they make a mistake. I agree with Lovie on the positive reinforcement quote.
Cmon people. This is not Philly.
November 5, 2008
#75 Mike said . . .Nice post. I'm sick of people booing their own teams, particularly Rex and several Bulls players every time they make a mistake. I agree with Lovie on the positive reinforcement quote.
Cmon people. This is not Philly.
November 5, 2008
#76 Mike said . . .Nice post. I'm sick of people booing their own teams, particularly Rex and several Bulls players every time they make a mistake. I agree with Lovie on the positive reinforcement quote.
Cmon people. This is not Philly.
November 5, 2008
#77 bEnDeR said . . .Sorry for the multiple posts, my computer was stalling so i clicked save a few times. As far as Orton starting this Sunday, shouldn't we just give him a week off as a precautionary measure? We don't want to make it worse, you know?
November 5, 2008
I totally agree with Ohio Bears fan. I'm good with Kyle. But I also remember how great Rex can be. We weren't doggin Rex the first half of 2006 when he was off the QB rating chart at well above a hundred. He had a bad game against the Bengals that same year and has had a confidence problem ever since. Sure he makes mistakes, but who doesn't. All of you Rex haters must be perfect. Yeah, that's it. Couple that with the way 'so called' Bears fans treat him any and every time his name is mentioned is wrong! How 'bout a bit of encouragement? He's a Chicago Bear! Or does that mean anything to you!?! Showing some love will go a long way. It amazes me how quickly fanatics turn on their own when they are most vulnerable. I guess you want him to go somewhere else, come back to Soldiers Field and light us up like Greise did, huh? He did help bring us back against Detroit. Just think how the football world would've clowned us all behind that one. Friends, co-workers, Lions fans, etc. Now I know that has to count for something. Yo Rex, I got cha back man!!! You Got this!!!
November 6, 2008
Here at DaBearsBlog, you are free to kill us or the Bears as you so wish. You are not free, however, to be an asshole. So if you spew racism or ill-meaning foul language (cursing about football is just fine) or anything of that ilk, your comments ain't gonna last long, jerk.