Here's what I don't like about the Chicago Bears...
1. The Josh Bullocks Factor
David Haugh called them the most secure mediocre defense in the league and he's right. For Halas Hall to believe this defense is going to rise from the muck because the head coach is calling the plays and because they hired the first man to lost every game he coached in a season is a bit troubling. All, and I mean, all the media attention has been on the quarterback, receivers and offensive line but this team's inability to stop other teams from throwing at-will looks to be their doom again in 2009.
2. No Back-up Quarterback
What happens if Kyle Orton gets hurt? And if the word "Basanez" comes out of your mouth, buy a roll of duct tape.
3. Tackles
The Bears are going to open the 2009 season with Chris Williams and Kevin Shaffer at the tackle position. I don't judge either player, since I know very little about either's ability, but they are undeniable question marks. I'm a little tired of question marks at important positions, specifically those responsible for keeping Brett Basanez off the field.
4. Rashied Davis = On the Roster
If the Bears decide to start Rash for another season, I quit. He gets no separation, runs half-assed routes and drops every other ball. Drafting a wide receiver in the first round may make the offense better down the road but it doesn't improve the 9-7 record.
#2 Ridiculous23 said . . .Bullocks is quite the upgrade at safety.
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I would be happy to see any kind of effort at all from the front office. Just throw us a bone, OK? Make us believe, just for a second, that we're going to improve on 9-7.March 30, 2009
#3 BearsTransplant said . . .Come on guys. I mean, I know it's what you do. But complaining about the Bears like this is stupid. Yes the offensive tackles are unknown but they are improvements, younger and meaner. Caleb Hanie is a capable back-up. With another year of seasoning he'll be a good back-up at least.
Although, Rashied Davis is awful and they need to get rid of him.March 30, 2009
#4 zisk said . . ."Caleb Hanie is a capable back-up." Based on what? A couple of pre-season games? Except for the Favre-less Jets, I say we have the worst/most unproved QBs in the league. Easy.
March 30, 2009
#5 Z said . . .Do you think our quarterbacks are worse than the awesome combination of daunte and culpepper? Are you scared of sage "the helicopter" rosenfels. It's hard to talk about the backups because I haven't seen them play. I'm still kind of disappointed they didn't pick up leftwich. He was an excellent backup to roethlisberger.
March 30, 2009
#6 Z said . . .How can something unknown be an improvement?
Even if Shaffer is better then St. Clair and the new O-line is ok and the new Safeties are better then they were with their previous teams (big if), we all know that our WR core is a joke. Address our needs JA.
We all know that finding an immediate impact out the gates Lineman (on either side of the ball) or S in the draft is much more likely then a WR. We have the depth of a kiddie pool.
Is Holt or Pace still available? Lloyd, Brown, somebody. Anybody?
March 30, 2009
#7 zisk said . . .Where did Leftwich go? Sign him. Carry 4.
March 30, 2009
#8 zisk said . . .I think I'm a lot more optimistic than many of you are. Last year the defense sucked, in stead of going shit wild like the packers and going 3-4 we are sticking to 4-3 that fits our personnel better. We are shaking up the coaching scheme, that we blamed for most of the problems in the first place, and plugging in a very highly regarded line coach and defensive cordinator. Our offensive line sucked so we brought in two way younger probable starters. The fact that we have a first rounder waiting in the wings is just icing on the cake. Our wide reicivers were horrendous but is hester, davis, bennet any worse than hester, davis, booker. With the upgrades to the line and coaching changes this team may already be better than last years, add in WR, DE and more offensive line early in the draft and I think we're looking at 11-5 and in the playoffs.
March 30, 2009
#9 FRESNO,CA BEAR FAN said . . .For some reason I've been realy liking robiskie in the second. If we go WR second who do you like in the first round.
March 30, 2009
#10 Joseph said . . .everyone stop your fucking bitching.......We will win the North and we will win the NFC....SUPERBOWL???
March 30, 2009
#11 jdawg said . . .Shit all I have to say is Nate Fucking Vasher better have a Damn Good Year or else we are Screwed!! Can we PLEASE cover a fucking Slant this year?!?!
Thats all I ask.
March 30, 2009
#12 selliot1958 said . . .I for giving Lovie the benefit of the doubt on D. He's basically shaken up the entire D coaching staff, including demoting Babich to linebackers coach.
Yes, the secondary is a major concern but I've very interested in Bowman at FS. Let's just hope we didn't trade an old, injury-prone safety for a young one.
The O is another story. Man, I hope Bennett has got the play book down!
March 30, 2009
#13 JWilson said . . .Kyle Orton could get injured the first snap of the season and the Bears would have to rely upon Hanie to carry them through. I'm not saying Hanie isn't a potential talent, but he'll have to have the best preseason in history to realistically lead this team. We know one thing about Hanie:
No NFL team thought he had enough potential to draft him.
Hanie had 15 interceptions and 18 TD's as a senior and despite my perception of him as a mobile quarterback, he rushed for 6 yards.
March 30, 2009
#14 JWilson said . . .More O-Line help?
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/30/pace-to-meet-with-bears/March 30, 2009
#15 Z said . . .From Da Site.
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=5691March 30, 2009
#16 jdawg said . . .Atta boy JA. He was healthy last year. How much do you think he has left in the tank? Can we get 2 or maybe even a 3rd season out of him?
WR's too JA. UFA, RFA, Jerry Rice and Cris Carter? Somebody catch it.
March 30, 2009
#17 Phil from SATX said . . .sniff sniff sniff
I smell DE, WR in the first two rounds.
March 30, 2009
#18 KentuckyBearsFan said . . .Now that would be a really cool signing - akin to the John Tait one when it occurred. But better.
I've reversed course, and find Jeff's take to be needlessly pessimistic. You can't call our Oline signings as "unknowns" - Omi was a highly sought after guy (10 teams) and the Browns tried a little harder to sign their guy then we did ours - and I would have taken the re-signing of St. Clair anyway. Shaffer's a better run blocker. Chris Williams was a high draft pick and we should have every expectation that he will be a major improvement over anyone we had last year. Now to add Pace to the mix?
Agree with jdawg, can't call the coaching changes insignificant, we all knew Babich couldn't coach a lick, and we also knew our guys were underperforming in a big way - that's either motivation or coaching or both. I think both coaching and motivation will be improved this year. They still need to add players, and so far JA's added two - not bad - he could have added no one.
Kyle totally deserves a complete shot next year - he'll be better, and he was damn good pre-injury last year.
I concur that a FA WR still needs to come, and I'd love it to be Holt. I don't want to rely on Hester + Bennett + a rookie, and that's pretty much what we're looking at right now. Is Lloyd still on the team? I'd take him.
I agree too with jdawg's second post- - I too smell a DE with the first pick. I think that's what JA's jockeying to do.
I have another idea - could we trade down enough to get one of the great centers this year, and have it make sense? We basically need a pick that splits the difference between our first and second. You know this is a great year for centers - how often are we talking about centers in the draft? - they could lock up the next Olin Kreutz and get a late 2nd rounder to boot. The likely traders would be those drafting last in the first.
I now think any receiver we end up with with the 18th pick is going to be too big of a risk. Rather have a great future center and two second rounders to play with.
March 30, 2009
#19 O-Line wins games said . . .selliot1958,
Man..Caleb Hanie's college stats are funky.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=160036
1. 18 TDs but 15 INTs suggests he's inaccurate
2. But his completion percentage was 64.4%
3. And he was sacked 35 times senior year
(sacked 37 times junior year)So he wasn't mobile enough to avoid sacks in college...at all. Either his O-line was hung over every game, or he can't read a defense worth a damn.
March 30, 2009
#20 jdawg said . . .ORLANDO PACE WOULD BE A FUCKING DREAM PICK-UP!! HE HAS 2 GOOD YEARS LEFT. GET IT DONE JERRY!!
17 - I agree Phil, if we could trade down to the end of the first and get Mack (future Pro Bowler without question) to replace Kreutz that would be huge.
And everyone who knows JA knows he will not pick a 1st rd WR. 2nd or 3rd rd WR is guaranteed.March 30, 2009
#21 Vizzini said . . .I think Hanie played on a stinky team. Kiper's hair was high on him. Almost as high as Kiper's hair.
March 31, 2009
#22 O-Line wins games said . . .Has JA been watching the world series of poker? Nice move not all out rushing for Pace. Now they might get him for a decent price and still be able to do more.HOLT!!!
I think whatever center they would pick in the 1st round (after they traded down of course) should be able to step in immediately at RG. Then they can learn from Kreutz on the feild and get Garza out the lineup.
However, I think Jdawg is right on with the DE. Either way it's a bonus.
March 31, 2009
#23 animal said . . .Kreutz is the one who needs to get out of the lineup, he's been playing on his reputation the last 2 years. Knowing the Bears they will continue to let him play on his reputation even though he hurts the team. Just cause you talk a lot on the field doesn't mean you are what you once were. He has been declining and will continue to decline this year.
March 31, 2009
#24 jdawg said . . .wait, wait. "as always they will continue to look to upgrade their roster."
AS ALWAYS?March 31, 2009
#25 jeff said . . .who was it that was saying Kruetz was helping Beekman's side most of the season?
March 31, 2009
#26 big rob said . . .TWO VISITS, SIGN EM BOTH:
i don't even hesitate to say i'm all for the bears signing both ken lucas and orlando pace, if only to provide depth at two of the most pivotal positions on the field.
March 31, 2009
#27 Shady McDraft Fan said . . .Kruetz wasn't doing anything except whiffing blocks and getting dominated all season..... He need to go.. If there is TRUE open competition for that position he needs to get sent to 2nd string and give the reigns to beekman.... I can't take another season of Kruetz standing around after the play looking confused.....
March 31, 2009
#28 O-Line wins games said . . .I thought they drafted Beekman to replace Kreutz, right? If they select a center like Mack, where where would they play him this year?
Maybe the Bears will pick up a humongous guard like Duke Robinson or Herman Johnson in the 2nd round and eventually slide Beekman to center when olin finally does decide to retire. how many years are left on his contract anyway?
I've been saying JA is going to trade down all off season, but the problem with saying that is the fact that it is much easier said than done. Offers do not come along prior to the draft (correct?) so all the decision making about fair value needs to be determined when the offers start rolling in when the Bears are on the clock. If by chance the only offers to trade down the Bears receive aren't worth trading down, what can you do?
Obviously the chances of receiving a great offer to trade down increase if a hot prospect (Crabtree, Stafford, Oher etc.) falls to the Bears at #18. Of course it would be tempting to go after one of those guys (as the Bears could use all 3) but if the Bears aren't completely sold on 'em, I think it would be hard for JA to pass on an extra few early draft picks.
March 31, 2009
#29 Anonymous said . . .Ken Lucas would be a great sign, he's better than Vasher and Graham and could probably start opposite Tillman if there is a "real" competition and you can never can enough corners.
Plus I think we all know Vasher's weak ass will get hurt again this year and take forever to get back on the field after he gets injured. And Tillman will undoubtedly have another shoulder injury that will sideline him a couple games.
Get it done Jerry.
Is it me or is Jerry doing a half decent job this offseason? I guess will see with the outcome of Pace and Lucas.March 31, 2009
#30 big rob said . . .#27 Mack would put Kreutz on the bench.
Beekman is average and will stay average his whole career.
Mediocrity must go!!
March 31, 2009
#31 do said . . .#29 Beekman played very well at LG last season... Kruetz has to go... I love his fire but he is too old and too slow.. Later Olin...
March 31, 2009
#32 Vizzini said . . .I know that most people around here would like us to take a WR with our first rounder or worst case scenario with our second round pick.
BUT could you imagine us taking Andre Smith (who has a VERY high possibility to fall to us) in the 1st then Duke Robinson in the 2nd?
Our Oline would be set for the next 10 years easy. With moving Beekman over to center. The line would be Williams (better pass protector), Robinson, Beekman, Omiyale, Smith.
I know this will never happen but having been an offensive lineman I can hope cant I?
March 31, 2009
#33 O-Line wins games said . . .I'm all aboard on the Olin needs to be replaced train, but I would rather move Garza first . I'ld rather see a lineman confunsed rather than a DB looking down on a flettened RG. So replace Garza with Kreutz's replacement this season?
Sorry, my brain is on overload. As a Bears fan it is freaking me out that the Bears may be making some significant acheivments this offseason.
March 31, 2009
#34 Phantom One said . . .31- If we got Andre Smith, please believe there is no way in hell that Williams beats him out at LT. Smith is a dominant LT all the way, a better pass blocker and 10 times the run blocker Williams is. Alabama ran behind him for the majority of their plays and you could argue that they lost their last bowl game to Utah simply because he was suspended. Smith has all the talent in the world but is still a little immature and would have been the 1st pick overall if he never had any off the field issues.
I agree the Smith pick won't happen. He won't get pass Samurai at #10, guaranteed.
Like others on here, I think we are going with DE Jackson with Wale leaving next year, but if Oher is there at 18 I think you have to take him.
March 31, 2009
#35 jeremy34 said . . .The off-season has just begun. Our mini-camp is over. The talent has been evaluated. Our needs are being addressed. This is classic Angelo.
Remember this gents - the reason you stack your team with later round draft choices is to ensure each of them is competing to stay in the NFL. If they haven't signed a fat deal they will play harder. Believe it.
Then you reward your own. Our locker room is filled with guys who are trying as hard as they can to get their contract, and are surrounded by others who are proof that if they perform they will get paid. That is COHESION.
Rash sure has fallen far. It was not long ago he hooked up with Rex in the Metrodome to win a ball game for us. Or pull down a 2o something yarder in OT to put us in FG position against the Seahawks in the playoffs.I don't think all is lost with Kruetz. He is a gamer. He sees the Williams boys twice a year in Minnesota, and the fat bastards in Detroit twice a year as well. Before we run the gauntlet on him realize that putting a rookie in our line-up to square off against those beasts is flat out not going to happen.
March 31, 2009
#36 Z said . . .Well said Phamton....good stuff.
March 31, 2009
#37 The Duke said . . .If we sign Lucas and Pace I will eat most of my JA rants. Shit even one of them but the WR market was early and that is the one position that we should have been at least doing visits and made an offer or two. That is such a hard position to draft a day one starter for and we are so horribly thin there. Throw Holt in there and I will sing your praises JA. At least make an offer.
March 31, 2009
#38 Shady said . . .Jeff, or any other NY'ers for that matter, a little off topic but I'm in NYC for Draft weekend and wondering if there's any bar a Bears fan should be at to watch the 18th pick. I know Chicago has some official draft day parties but wondered if NYC had anything to offer. Thanks.
March 31, 2009
#39 O-Line wins games said . . .It's called Josie Woods. I know not because I'm from NYC, but because this guy Jeff over here won't shut up about it!
March 31, 2009
#40 do said . . .34 - Just because Kreutz faces the Williams Steroid Wall twice a year doesn't mean he is effective against them. Have you ever seen us run up the middle against MIN successfully? Kreutz usually gets handled by Kevin Williams even though he usually has help from a guard.
Mack is a lot bigger and stronger (6'4 316 pds) than Kreutz and is definitely an improvement. Kreutz is not what he once was and he will only get worse as he continues to age. Mack is an All-Pro 1st Rd Center, and probably one of the top 3 centers out of college in the last 15 years. This kid is the real deal, not your average rookie.
Trade down to the late 1st rd and pick him up. One of the safest picks in the draft.
"He is very, very good. Mack certainly has a physical presence that I usually don't see out of an offensive lineman, an explosive ability to open up holes, grapple the defender and keep him anchored to his body until the play ends. He's better at run blocking than pass blocking but still very good at pass blocking. Excellent work ethic and leadership. Serious guy in practices. Smart guy too. Willing to learn. Great awareness. Mentally, I think he's all there and a perfect football player (smart, intelligent, mentally tough, disciplined). Physically he's a great player too."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8xCkToEnJ8
March 31, 2009
#41 Vizzini said . . .What if we can not trade out of #18? I know that centers should not go that high but because of the position I think we could pay him less (that would make the front office happy) than any other player at that pick, well except for maybe a punter.
I think that there will be no skill players available at 18 that are worth the pick. And with JA's ability to scout talent there is no chance in hell I would want them to pick a 1st round DE when they could get someone in the 3rd or 4th who can come in and play.
Oh but I think there is NO WAY that the 9ers take Smith. He apparently has a bad attitude and MS will not deal with him. Snyder with the Redskins however would probably jump at the opportunity to bring him in at pick 13 (i think thats when they pick and I dont want to look it up).
March 31, 2009
#42 Albert In Tucson said . . .This is just a dream, but it would be sweet if they could trade 1st round picks with the Patriots(18th for 23rd). Then switch their 49th for the Patriots 34th. The Patriots have three second round picks.
March 31, 2009
#43 BDG said . . .Orlando Pace visted. Think there's any tread left on that tire?http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/huddleup/2009/03/report-orlando-pace-visit-with-chicago-bears.html
March 31, 2009
#44 Urlacher FTW said . . .Would love the Pace and Lucas signings. Both preferably but I would take either. I'm surprised at the lack of excitement over Corey Graham though. I think this kid is going to be a stud and is better than peanut right now. Still would like Lucas for the depth and he is a physical corner that can help stop the quick slants if they did play him. I would like to see anyone one of them orVasher take over the nickel back job from Manning. He's just not very good. Put Manning in on third down for his blitzing at times and that's about it. I also am shocked that everyone seems so down on Beekman. I think he showed a lot of promise last year. Very smart and powerful, can really move for a guard. I am worried if he is the long term answer at center he may be undersized to match up with the Williams boys and that BEAST "Ryan Pickett" lol from G.B, or whoever they bring in to build the "hybrid" 3-4 around. Plus you have to think after being spoiled with Haynesworth, Jim Shwartz in Detroit will get a beast ASAP. Still think there will be some interesting options come our 18th pick including 1 of the top 2 QB's so hopefully it ends up having a lot of value and we can pick up multiple picks if it's not the guy they REALLY want. If J.Macklin, A.Smith, Oher, or maybe a couple others do fall you grab them if not trade down.
March 31, 2009
#45 MattIsMyForte said . . .I really don't think anyone should draft a QB this season, it is pathetic. I mean you really never know until they get here what they are going to be like in the NFL, but we have KO and a rookie QB to sit the bench doesn't make this team instantly better.
Even the top picks half the time don't work out, I mean Russell and Quinn were so highly touted; great athletes, polished, NFL ready... KO threw more TDs in 08 alone than Russell and Quinn have in their entire careers put together.We should focus on improving this team with the first 2 picks, WR is we are thinnest; hopefully one of the first 2 picks is a WR. Other should be OL if they are a stud that slips or a DE.
March 31, 2009
#46 Pd said . . .That Smith kid from Cal is a fucking BEAST!
No QB in round 1.
Sign Pace, he's currently in negotiations with Balt. So hopefully we can get it done.
March 31, 2009
#47 jdawg said . . .I'd love to have Pace. He's a great vetern LT/RT, and probably has 1-2 good years left. I think he makes our line instantly better. Plus between Williams, Shaffer, and Pace we would have alot of depth/talent at a key position on O-line for once.
This would allow us to take a guard in the 3 or 4th round that could step in and compete for a starting job. Maybe one of the 3 will get moved to guard, who knows. I would be really excited to see our line improve... for both Forte and Orton's success.
This would also allow us to address something else with picks 1 and 2. Considering we need WR, DE, and S badly... it would be nice to not have to worry about OL on the first two picks. Next year we could go OL in round 1 to replace Pace/Shaffer and RT. Of course this all hinges on Williams living up to expectations... which i am not so sure about.
I'd like to see the bears get a great S in the first 2 rounds. Our secondary has been shit for 2 years now, and alot of that has to do with lack of a solid saftey. We have talent at CB, and I like Payne, but we need another S. Personally I'd like to see Chung (Oregon). I think some have him going to New England, but if he falls to the 2nd round, it'd be nice to trade up a few spots and grab him.
There are alot of things i'd like to see... but IF we signed Pace i'd like to see:
pick 1: WR
pick 2: S (trade up with a 3rd or 4th rounder)
pick 3: DE/OL (to play guard)
everything else: best available.I think our two biggest needs outside of O-line are WR and S. We have NOTHING at WR. Hester is just a vertical threat at this point... and Orton doesnt have the time/touch to hit the deep ball. Maybe Bennett will come along this offseason. IDK.
Also out secondary HAS to get better. I just can't deal with seeing team after team with shitty QB's converting on 3rd and forever. Blame the entire unit, but I hope a soild S will help shore up the D.
March 31, 2009
#48 The ARE said . . .my assumption was that there are no top tier safeties in this draft.
April 1, 2009
#49 The ARE said . . .Good post... Man are those 4 listings HILARIOUS & very telling to say the least!
Now back to business as to why I'm back to hijack this worthless site....
" same exact ... redundant, thus improper grammer - good one "
Never claimed to be an expert in writing. As a matter of fact I think I'm pretty poor at it. Next time you want to play grammAr police make sure spell the damn word right you fucking moron.
" You don't even know your own players:
Kampman is spelled with one n not two and he is listed as a DT, plays DE and you list him as a LB.... Jeremy Thompson is another DE you listed as a LB. Your argument makes even less sense when you look at the fact I stated you have no Inside LBs... even if a DE is going to flip to LB for a 3-4 it would be an OLB. Please try to make intelligent arguments and it may help to google a guy before you list him at a position since you don't know your own team. "Did you just try to make me look foolish but FAIL miserably? Boy you Bears fans are dumber than I thought....
http://www.packers.com/team/depth_chart/
" If I hear the term Hybrid 3-4 defense one more time I think I will punch the next Packers fan I see in the face. So does your defense run on corn or some other flex fuel. Lets call a spade a spade. The 3-4 defense is not going to help that joke of a defense. "
2007 & 2008 defensive stats
Points allowed--(07) 7th-- 291 ---- (08) 22nd -- 380
Passing yards allowed-- (07) 12th -- 3,366 ---- (08) 12th -- 3,244
Passing TD allowed-- (07) 18th -- 23 ---- (08) 21st -- 22
Rushing yards allowed-- (07) 14th -- 1,647 ---- (08) 26th -- 2,1005
Rushing TD allowed--(07) 1st -- 626 ---- (08) 27th -- 20
Turnovers --(07) 16th -- 28 ---- (08) 12th -- 28
Total yards allowed -- (07) 11th -- 513 -----(08) 20th-- 5,349
Last years defense had the SAME personnel as 07 excluding-- Corey Williams. Go look how many key injuries the Packers D had last year(most notably on the D line). Also Al Harris, Nick Barnett, Atari Bigby missed significant amount of time too. Not making excuses but that is exactly why their D fell of so badly. They couldn't stop the run nor get a pass rush after all the injuries, which is why they fell off from 07.
So if this year the D stays healthier( which is a given ), you don't think they can return to 07 form or near it? If you don't think this team can return to 07 form or near it then you're just a complete moron. They will not be worse then last year GUARANTEED, & that is not a good sign for you morons & the rest of the NFC North.
Also add that the Packers actually have a D coordinator with PROVEN results of turning underachieving defenses around. The Packers D isn't going to be predictable anymore , which doesn't bode well for your vanilla play calling. This defense can go nowhere but up this year. I don't expect this D to be a world beater, but I do expect it to be 16th or above. Pair that with the Packs dominant offense & WATCH OUT!
Can't wait to see how Orton reacts to the looks he isn't familiar with. That stiff is going to crack & its going to be hilarous.
Oh yea & you aren't going to be punching anything but your little dick punk , so enough with the internet muscles tough guy. Save that shit for your little buddie ya putz.
" If you think Orton was the worst starting QB in the NFL then you obviously know almost nothing about football "Please tell me where I said he was the worst QB in the league jerky boy? If you think he is better than Rodgers your bat shit nuts.
" I was wondering why THE ARE and other jackass Packer and Viking fans were coming onto this site and talking smack. Then I decided to check online for Packer fan websites comparable to this one and you know what I found, web sites with one and maybe two comments on them. Some fans. I guess that's why we have Packer and Viking fans jumping in here, because their pitiful excuse for fans don't even care enough about their team to blog on their own websites. "
LMAO!!!
Please tell me what blogs you went to, because honestly I call bullshit on that one. If you actually did go to any Packer websites you would realise that they are leaps and bounds above this piece of shit site.
The only reason I even came to this piece of shit site was to mess with my buddy, but then some of you morons tried to get cute with all your stupid drivel. What can I say I had to react.
" The Are, post 111, you shouldn't make remarks about grammatical mistakes in a post where you make a huge grammatical mistake. "
Like I said I'm not one to talk shit about grammatical errors, but when that Texas moron tried calling me out for them he should've atleast made sure he didn't have any in his post blasting me for poor writing.
April 1, 2009
#50 O-Line wins games said . . .I am a fucking idiot and a little bitch who needs attention, so if everyone ignores me I will leave.
April 1, 2009
#51 L. Weigh said . . .46 -It really is a weak year for safeties but Johnson from Alabama looks good, would be a good pick in the 3rd but not the 2nd.
April 1, 2009
#52 JWilson said . . .Cutler trade talks are open!
April 1, 2009
#53 Duff Diggler said . . .Jerry better be working late tonight. Broncos officially putting Cutler on the block.
http://www.nfl.comApril 1, 2009
#54 Shady said . . .pfft....
....pipe dreams.....
....i give 4/1 odds he'll be a jet by april 15th
April 1, 2009
#55 O-Line wins games said . . .Jerry!
Jerry!
Jerry!
April 1, 2009
#56 Z said . . .The ball is in your court Jerry, show us you are how "fixated" you are on improving the QB position.
Get Cutler.April 1, 2009
#57 Phantom One said . . .Before Detroit, Minnesota or Tampa does
April 1, 2009
#58 Phantom One said . . .Duff - I'll take the 4 to 1 odds wager. I'll bet you $10 he will not be a Jet.
Here is why:
Right now Jerry is asking himself how much? And his answer will be - just enough. We have more to give than most teams, and there are plenty of short term solutions available for every roster need we have that can be filled to make a trade now.
Short term solution at safety - resign Mike Brown for another year.
Short term solution @ WR - sign and PLAY MIKE HAAS (heart is good enough for me).
Short term fix @ OT - sign Pace.
Short term fix a Guard - Omiyale
A long term solution to our QB dilemma is worth some short term sacrifice. And Jerry KNOWS THIS.
Jay Cutler will be a Bear when the dust settles. I feel it.
April 1, 2009
#59 Shady said . . .You gotta to want Cutler like Ditka wanted Ricky Williams. Remember Da Coach, he gave away the farm to get a second Sweetness. The Saints sucked before the trade and they sucked after the trade, but he went for it. Again, heart is good enough for me.
April 1, 2009
#60 Phantom One said . . .Except Jay Cutler is more of a proven commodity than Ricky Williams was coming out of college. There's a small but significant difference there.
April 1, 2009
#61 big rob said . . .Agreed.
I was just trying to emphasis the zeal in which he went after Ricky.
April 1, 2009
#62 BDG said . . .Interesting stat....
In games that the Broncos have allowed 21 points or fewer, Cutler is an impressive 13-1
April 1, 2009
#63 Max said . . .Right or wrong I agree I think JA is setting us up for a real run at Cutler. I'm not sold on it till I hear what it would take but I think we may be serious contenders for him in this
April 1, 2009
#64 do said . . .Rashied can play special teams
April 1, 2009
#65 Z said . . .Ok for a long time I was not for going after Cutler, but recently I have changed my mind.
First we ask ourselves what do we have to give up to get Cutler. This years first and next years 1st and Orton should do the trick.
Next do we think that Cutler could be better in our system than Orton with the players that we have now? I think the answer is yes. How many times last year did Hester run past the D, have 3 yards on the defenders and the ball was underthrown? ALOT! We would get arguably one of the best deep ball QBs in the game to throw the ball to (I know im going to get ripped for this) what could be one of the best deep threats in the game.
Finally we ask what COULD we have gotten for our 2 1st round picks that we are giving up. This year maybe a top 5 tackle or top 3 wr from this class. Someone that PROBABLY will not be a top 10 player in the league. Next year assuming we have a similar season and win one or two more games and make the playoffs we would be picking 21 at the earliest. Who could we get here that would fill a need? Top 3 OT nope, Top safety nope (Taylor Mays will be long gone), Top 3 WR nope, Top 3 QB nope (Next years class should produce 3 top 10 picks IMO).
So would this not be worth it to get a for sure top 10 QB in the league right now that is young? (I might even go as high as top 4).
I think it is and I really hope we pull the trigger. If we can get him for less that is great. But I think we offer this trade to them and by Friday we all get to see a number 6 Navy and Orange jersey that reads CUTLER on the back.
April 1, 2009
#66 B said . . .With Cutler here we might suddenly be a place that FA WR's want to come to thrive instead of die.
Limited time offer. Offensive line and bus to be thrown under not included.
April 1, 2009
#67 BDG said . . .Just throwing this thought around, if da Bears do get Cutler what will that do for our cap room? Will we be able to sign Pace and Lucas? Just one? Pace last year was slated to have 6 million in cap room for the rams, how much is he going to command in FA? Pace or Lucas would be nice pick ups, Pace is good for stability on offence, and Lucas because or DB's were just not getting it done last year. Don't we have 25-30 million in cap room?
Let's not forget that the McCaskey's don't like to spend money. Either JA is blowing smoke which is what i thought he was doing when he said he was fixated on the QB position, or he is sneaking into Virginia's room at night and taking money out of her pocket book to get these deals done.
Final thought Pace excellent addition could happen, if it drags out forget about it. Lucas more likely. Cutler probably not gonna happen, but if it did I would like to have pace there so Cutler doesn't get torn apart his first season.
April 1, 2009
They are actually reporting Pace is a priority now and he will play LT. Williams going to RT if it happens. Very interesting. If Williams is powerful enough for RT I'm all for giving him a couple years of seasoning on the right side. I'm wondering what that says about their faith in him though.
This is turning out to be one of the most interesting off season's in a while I must say and you can guarantee they will pick up a veteran WR after the draft. I still like Armani Toomer for the big reliable 1st down machine we need.
April 1, 2009
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