Here's five reasons I want the Bears to sign him. Immediately.
1. Who cares about his attitude? If he's complaining about the Bears passing game, he's probably right. Think about it. If they're not throwing him the ball, who are they throwing it to?
2. If he complains about KO, he'd be a broken record. Everybody in Chicago complains about the quarterback. He wouldn't even get a headline in the Trib.
3. He's great. Not good. He's great. And he'd make Devin Hester a whole lot better.
4. He makes the Bears an exciting team to watch in 2009 - something they managed to avoid in 2008.
5. Think about it. Get off you moral high horse and think about it. It makes our lives a lot more fun to have T.O. in navy and orange next year.
#2 CA BEAR FAN said . . .DO IT!!!!! WE got nobody at WR. Hes still got some left in the tank
March 5, 2009
#3 CA BEAR FAN said . . .I have never liked TO but now I kinda do...thanks Jeff! I hope we do get him!
March 5, 2009
#4 Anonymous said . . .I bet you anything the vikings will go after him
March 5, 2009
#5 The Ghost of Halas said . . .TO will go to the Pats, Giants, or Steelers,
you know a real franchise with a real QB.So please don't even talk about the possibility of him coming to Chicago.
Have fun in New England TO.
No WR in the NFL wants to come to the Bears. That's why we don't have any.
Torry Holt also wants to be released, you think he's coming to the Bears, hell no!
No one here wants a franchise QB, so you don't get any WRs either.
March 5, 2009
#6 Z said . . .I'm right there with you, Jeff.
This is what I wrote about several weeks or months ago. The Bears have no personalities. T.O. provides personality and character to the team.
I'm all for it. It won't happen. But I'm all for it.
March 5, 2009
#7 Z said . . .#4 has a good point.
When I read the title of the thread Jeff I was about to disagree with you but then after reading the rest, shit, why not. What am I worried about? That it will hold us back from our disciplined, never complaining, always take responsibility for your actions locker room when we are deep in the playoffs. Yeah, don't think I am too worried about that. I am thrilled Dallas is losing him but he might as well be here than somewhere else in the NFC. He instantly makes our passing and running game better. But if we get him I'm kinda thinking we might need a new QB to make it work. My question is why would he want to come to Chicago? Except that he would be the focal point and get all his attention.
March 5, 2009
#8 Z said . . .Owen's is a five-time All-Pro and ranks second in career touchdowns, fifth in career yards receiving and sixth in career receptions.
March 5, 2009
#9 day glo lite brite said . . .The Cowboys paid Owens a $12 million signing bonus just last year, included as part of a new four-year, $34 million deal. Dallas will take a roughly $9 million salary cap hit with the release of Owens.
That is a big salary cap number to not have someone on your team. And this is Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. If you can't blend in at dysfunctional Dallas or Oakland, where can you? But look at how much Moss has chilled out in NE.
It would be nice to hear someone bitch about how bad RT is at calling plays besidses us. That could be fun. I read him and Parcells didn't talk once the entire time that he was coach. Is that possible? I don't know about this move Jeff. But to me making the playoffs is the only thing that determines whether our season was successful (with a small consolation prize if we sweep the Pack) so if it helps us do that then I guess.
March 5, 2009
#10 Anonymous said . . .i was waiting for you to post this. glad you agree. we NEED a real receiver, he won't flatline us like moose
March 5, 2009
#11 Dr J said . . .Yeah right, I agree with 85% of what was said but TO in Chicago is a no go. You want a positive presence in your locker room not a jack-ass. True, if we picked him up Chicago would have no one else to throw it to but we are also cultivating a young up and comer at HB. I can see To arguing over touches. Remember a football has to be thrown to a receiver but only handed to a HB. Can we even get the ball in TO's hands? Our shady QB, potluck OL and disappointing Offensive Cordinator is more of an issue. Can we see other routes but slants, fades, and curls
March 5, 2009
#12 Scared2Kick2Hester said . . .Wow T O would be a great add on to our team talent wise but first it seem like Da Bears are toooo cheap to get a high profile player. But to me T O's attitude and the problems he causes is not worth it to add him to our team , he just keeps something neg going all the time
March 5, 2009
#13 Shady said . . .TO is an aging WR who's best years are behind him. The main reason Dallas tanked the last two years was Romo was bullied into forcing the ball to TO. Owens has never been a speed guy, and now that he has lost a step Romo had to wait a long time for him to get open..basically he was running across the field...making it take a long time for plays to develope. If you actually watch the games you will see that there is no one else who gets the ball in the red zone for the cowboys. That is the main reason for is inflated touchdown numbers. I mean we all know what kind of beast Roy Williams is, and he got no passes thrown his way. Not because To was a better player, but because Romo , Garcia, and especially Mcnabb are scared of him. He is not in the same category with Tj hosh (who everyone thought was too old to be worth the money)or even Moose (who had a great year in carolina where they actually throw the ball beyond the line or scrimmage). I mean who in our locker room would stand up to his tirades?
March 5, 2009
#14 Kaizer Soze said . . .In a word: No.
March 5, 2009
#15 BearDown1982 said . . .And you think our out of the box thinkers Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith are going to see your view point Jeff?
I say go for it. One season and that will give Hester some time to develop.
March 5, 2009
#16 Claymore said . . .Hmm...I worry TO's best days are over. However, he has such a huge ego...it might just work. He would want to be the one receiver who thrived in Chicago...another notch on his belt.
I doubt he would end up here anyways. I'm sure a contender will take a gamble on him. Bringing in a guy like TO would shock the shit out of me.
I hear that Torry Holt wants to be released from the Rams. That may be another option. Although, he may be a bit more injury prone, and like TO, would probably end up somewhere else.
March 5, 2009
#17 Smitty said . . .Ahhh, TO... To bring him in gives us at least one year of him behaving and playing football. What a year that would be. After that, he starts to bitch and complain about perceived slights in the passing game (TO was targeted more than Witten), and then go on Sportscenter and tearfully state that whomever is throwing him the ball at the time is in fact "his quarterback". Maybe if they put TO on lithium, get him a conservator (what is Mrs McNabb up to?), and teach him to keep his eye on the ball, Lovie may take a chance on him.
March 5, 2009
#18 Urlacher FTW said . . .T.O. is a c***sucker. What if he gets the Barry Bond's treatment?
I'm sure he will sign. Maybe with the Bengals?
I don't see Steelers although that would be nasty.
Giants? Maybe..
I don't think T.O. would sign with the Bears even if we made an offer.
March 5, 2009
#19 Bill From SATX said . . .I would like TO here. Why not? He does know how to play receiver. He still has years left to play at a very high level, he would give us a year or 2 of seeing if Hester and Bennett are going to develop or not. We could concentrate on our awful Oline and DE positions in the draft. We have 30 mil in cap space anyway and after 2 more years there won't be a cap.
And if we built up our line and gave KO a target like TO opposite a speedy Hester and with Olsen in the middle and Matty comin out of the backfield; then there would be no questions where blame would fall. And even if it failed because of KO and we were awful, we'd be in better shape to grab Bradford in the draft in '10 and have an accurate strong armed QB with TO as a target (that should make or break a rookie fast).
March 5, 2009
#20 jeff said . . .Well Jeff, at least you are exploring possibilities, since the management can't seem to catch on to that idea. I have never liked TO, and living in TX, I had to see some of those games and I think he would run our team in the ground. Last year,in one of those games, over one third of the plays went to him and he complained he was not involved. I would rather get someone like Torry Holt to step in for now and help with the young guys. I still want to see Bennett next season. I also think we should have kept Lloyd another year. He had some great games. We do have a good QB and we need to let him grow into the position. KO has shown improvement from his first starting season to this past season. We just need to get some WR help, besides TO, so the load can be spread out, not to just Forte, Clark, and Olsen.
March 5, 2009
#21 NO TO T.O. said . . .don't get me wrong, i dont think this is going to happen. but i can't wait to hear why. it'll involve a lot of crap from jerry angelo, i'm sure.
March 5, 2009
#22 Willie from Chicago said . . .League leader in drop passes. Whiney biatch who has wrecked the confidence of all the QB's he's played with (Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Tony Romo... next?).
March 5, 2009
#23 Go Bears said . . .If the front office gives a fuck at all about winning, theyll get TO. End of story.
March 5, 2009
#24 TO to the Jets would be great said . . .TO's ego and salary will only fit into the Giants or Jets. Hello New York!
Da Bears have so many needs it's depressing to list them. But I'm tired of the marshmellow defense. We need a pass rush. Can we please get a pass rush? Can we get a safety to replace MB who can put a hit on somebody over the middle?
March 5, 2009
#25 Go to the AFC said . . .I hope the Jets go to the SB (and then lose to us of course) just to stick it to Favre and the Pack one year after their chance for glory and a 1st Rd. pick
March 5, 2009
#26 Z said . . .Then Williams is not in Det and Dallas loses a 1st and a 3rd rounder and TO and TO is not in the NFC anymore. Sounds like some good stuff to me.
The Jets, Oak, Cin would be fine and who can count out the we'll sign or trade anyone Broncos
March 5, 2009
#27 Albert in Tucson said . . .Here's what I got on Holt:
Seven-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Torry Holt has asked the St. Louis Rams for his release. Holt, who has one year left on his current contract, is due a roster bonus of $1.25 million on March 17, making it unlikely he'll remain on the roster beyond that date.
Holt, 32, is currently 11th in NFL history in career receptions, with 869, and 14th all-time in career receiving yards with 12,660. His 817 receptions for 11,872 yards are the most of any receiver this decade, and his 80.1 average yards per game is the most for any receiver in league history.
But 2008 was a down year in every way for Holt, who saw his string of eight 1,000-yard seasons snapped as the Rams struggled to a 2-14 record and fired coach Scott Linehan after four games. He caught 64 passes for 796 yards and a career-low three touchdowns in 2008.
March 5, 2009
#28 jdawg said . . .T.O. is a MAGICIAN! He took the Dallas, a team with WAAAAY more overall talent than the Bears, and POOF, he turned the Cowboys into...THE BEARS (9-7). Just another team on the outside of the playoffs looking in. Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. "Moral High Horse" has nothing to do with it. What part of "Locker Room Cancer" don't you understand?
March 5, 2009
#29 Z said . . .I would prefer Holt since he would probably help our soon to be very young receiving core.
I would only want TO if he had a couple mandatory trips to the shooting range with Olin.
March 5, 2009
#30 johnnyelpaso said . . .I do fear TO going to Was so he and Snyder can stick it to Dal twice a year. Please no.
March 5, 2009
#31 big rob said . . .well i dont like TO, buy you've got to admitt, he's a hell of a football player and he could be a good addition. his experience and work ethic in the gym and on field are great. his attitude sucks but we need someone on this team that will call you out if your playing shitty.....period....he would improve this team....it wont happen on signing so lets move on......deven would have a good mentor with TO and work ethic
March 5, 2009
#32 Urlacher FTW said . . .Do it now.....
March 5, 2009
#33 Reality Check said . . .Oh man, I am really LOL at this.
In that interview cited on the link jeff has, Jerry Jones actually said:
"we want Roy Williams to have a lot of balls.”OMG Jerry so did Detroit! I think you are the one with a lot of balls in that deal!
March 5, 2009
#34 Reverend Dave said . . .Once again, name ONE big time player the Bears have EVER GONE AFTER!!!! The thought of this just makes me laugh. Plus, its the CHEAPO BEARS!!!!
March 5, 2009
#35 KentuckyBearsFan said . . .the only and i mean ONLY argument for bringing in TO is Z's point that it would be fun to have someone on the team bitching about RT's playcalling as much as we do.
March 5, 2009
#36 do said . . .My first reaction (like an idiot) is OMG WHAT IF HE SIGNS WITH THE BEARS.
But my second reaction is: TO is a depressing headcase. He is a very sad, unhappy man...and has been one so for many years. I'm going by not just the jiving, or the possible overdose that may or not have been one, but seeing him on an interview at other sporting events (I think it was an NBA game). Slurred speech and drinking is fine (I sure as hell should know) but he has the look of an empty vessel in his eyes. Always.
I forget which sportswriter (Whitlock? or the late Ralph Wiley) said this...but TO was a quiet guy in college and when he came into the league. The antics are not natural and it shows.
Third reaction: he would never go the Bears. New England, Washington, Miami, and even Minnesota would be more likely.
March 5, 2009
#37 Angelo's Fault? said . . .How about another Cowboys cast away? Roy Williams got cut today (the safety). Might be a replacement for Brownie?
March 5, 2009
#38 JAB said . . .http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/03/radio_host_says_angelo_bears_h.html
March 5, 2009
#39 jeff said . . .No way on TO. Can you imagine what would happen when Orton doesn't get him the ball. He'd cry like a baby and convince all the morons on the team that would listen that his way is the right way. Then bam we have a divided locker room just like Dallas, Philadelphia and San Fran. I say go after Torry Holt and get a guy who doesn't whine, is a consistent producer and a good team guy. Granted he is on the downside of his career but I think he would still bring something to the table.
March 5, 2009
#40 Anonymous said . . .do i get the ten touchdowns?
then he can say whatever he wants.
March 5, 2009
#41 Realist said . . .The Tale of Two TO's:
The TO who played through excrutiating pain 6 weeks after ankle surgery is a flat out warrior. That part of TO is manly and worthy of being a Chicago Bear.
The other TO is a flat out narcissist. Narcissists are "me first", and "me always" people. They fail in every endeavor, but one: Self destruction.
With good leadership we can find the warrior within him, and get the best out of him. The Bears are absent that leadership.
March 5, 2009
#42 Z said . . .Come on. This is a joke, right? My 5 reasons why you don't even think about it:
A. Age. His production has dropped the last two years in an offense that was TRYING to get him the ball.
B. The big "duh." Chemistry.
C. The Bears need to get YOUNGER, not older. This leads to point D.
D. Salary Cap. The Bears don't have the room in the Cap to give Owens 4-5 million (if he'd sign that low) and still address their other needs in the draft.
E. Reality: Angelo and Lovie are working for their jobs. If they bring in Owens, they are taking a HUGE gamble with EVERYTHING riding on it. What in their past gives you the idea they're risk takers.Further, anyone who thinks he's going to Pittsburgh is out of their mind. There is a better change of the President balancing the budget than that happening. My bet is he either ends up in Oakland or takes less money to go to Washington.
March 5, 2009
#43 jeff said . . .The Dallas Cowboys have cut Roy Williams making him a free agent and puts a youthful and still-productive defensive player on the open market.
The seven-year veteran, a fixture in the Dallas interior secondary, was named to five Pro Bowl teams and one All-Pro squad. During his career with the Cowboys, Williams collected 611 tackles, 6½ sacks, 19 interceptions and 56 passes defensed.
Blessed with the instincts of a safety and the hitting power of a linebacker, Williams was often a liability in pass coverage. He was at his best playing close to the line of scrimmage and was an effective defender versus the run.
Roy Williams is only 28? I thought he was older. How bad is he? Could he handle Brownie's job? Shit maybe sign him and Brown and let them compete?March 5, 2009
#44 Z said . . .realist, the only answer that holds water there is jerry and lovie being afraid.
they have tons of cap space.
they have no chemistry.
his age didn't stop him from being an elite receiver a year ago and this offense doesn't need to get younger. they have a young qb, rb, te, wr. they need a leader.
March 5, 2009
#45 O-Line wins games said . . .But is that what we would get with TO? Those are dangerous hands to put it in. As soon as things aren't going his way. IMPLOSION!!
March 5, 2009
#46 BearDown1982 said . . .44- S Roy Williams sucks ass, he cannot cover anyone to save his life. If the Bears sign him it will simply prove they don't get it.
Read that Sharper is interested in the Bears, but they didn't invite him to visit Halas Hall after he visited NO.
Way to court the FAs JA.
I think Sharper is just using the Bears for leverage and will ultimately sign with NO.
GET JERMAINE PHILLIPS!!
I think I'll keep writing that till he signs with SEA.March 5, 2009
#47 Urlacher FTW said . . .Jeff, do you think TO can really be that leader though?
I just worry we don't have anyone who can reel him in...the Cowboys obviously couldn't.
I think Holt would be a better veteran presence...and Hester could learn a lot from him.
March 5, 2009
#48 Anonymous said . . .Yah the Oline needed to get younger when it was st clair, garza, kreutz, and tait. Now with tait and st.clair replaced, I think it is even manageable there. But outside of that the offense will be pretty young as a whole, especially if Buenning replaces Garza and we have Beek in the wings for Olin, real young. If anything at the WR position we need to get a little older.
Cap space for the draft? We had like 34 million when tait left and spent 4 million on Omi. So we still have like 30 mill in cap space, wtf rookies are we going to get exactly that will require 30 million?
TO has played 13 years in 174 games and has 139 TDs. Thats over 10 TDs every year and 80% of the games he's played he scores a TD.
In comparison, Holt has played 10 years in 146 gamesand has 74 TDs. Thats 7 TDs every year and 50% of the games, he scores a TD.
So is attitude and some more money worth an additional 30% chance at a TD every game? That's the question.
March 5, 2009
#49 NittyGritty34 said . . .#48 Holt's not coming to the Bears, like TO he wants a QB and to play for a contender.
Give up on the WRs guys, they don't want to come here.
We be better served talking about Devin Aromashodu, John Broussard, and Rudy Burgess.
March 5, 2009
#50 WTF are they thinking said . . .I haven't posted since the end of the season. But I've been reading. All I have to say about T.O. is this; I would rather lose without him, then win with him (which wouldn't happen anyway). Hey Jeff, I seem to remember you being one of the people who hated on Moose because he was (apparently) a locker room cancer. His antics didn't get near the publicity T.O. would get, and you want to bring him here? I don't get it. If we signed him, Walter and Papa Bear would roll over in their graves. In this case, I'm glad Angelo is a pussy and won't do a thing. Resign Tank, Benson, and whoever else over this douche.
March 5, 2009
#51 animal said . . .TO will likely be a Giant. He would fit perfectly into Buress's spot. He will be more problems than solutions. We need a #1 draft pick WR, not a 35 headache.
March 5, 2009
#52 Scared2Kick2Hester said . . .WHAT? Bring in a locker room cancer, team destroyer, who will throw KO under the bus at the drop of a hat? GREAT idea.
March 5, 2009
#53 Z said . . .Why do we need TO, we already have a diva in Briggs, and someone who drops balls in Davis.
Roy williams is too fat to cover and Darren Sharper was past his prime years ago.March 5, 2009
#54 johnnyelpaso said . . .Interesting thought about the Sharper comment. Shouldn't we be visiting and talking to FA' s once in awhile just so they might have a little leverage and maybe drive up some prices? Everytime another team pays even a little bit more, doesn't that leave them with a little bit less for other FA players, rookies and contracts? And doesn't that help us by them having less to work with. It's just math and even a little less could make a difference at some point. The NFL cap is chess JA, not checkers or hopscotch or whatever the hell you are playing. And it would make us look active so maybe players would consider coming here thinking that they will be playing for a winner or a team trying hard to improve. At least put the sign on the door and let them fill out there info.
March 5, 2009
#55 Z said . . .i see roy williams becoming a bear......JA signing him...TO will be somewhere else other than a bear..JA will sign the wrong cowgirl......
March 5, 2009
#56 Anonymous said . . .QB or receiver? If you have to ask, you have neither.
"Meanwhile, at Halas Hall, Angelo sits by a dusty phone, the NFL’s version of the Maytag Repairman, tossing cards into a hat." Oh shit he had the ringer off the whole time and thought all the FA were only supposed to call him not the other way around. This GM thing is tough.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1462595,hayes-bears-receivers-030509.article
March 5, 2009
#57 Z said . . .I think Neil Hayes read my #4 post before he wrote the #57 article.
Great article by the way.
March 5, 2009
#58 Z- Doh! said . . .The Bengals sidned JT O'sullivan. Where will sexy end up? I hope it is not the Lions.
March 5, 2009
#59 Z said . . .* signed
Wow I missed by 2 letters on that one on the keyboard.
March 5, 2009
#60 Urlacher FTW said . . .I'll only list signings from here on out, not visits. This ESPN blog is still doing lots of updates on both.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation?tag=09%20free%20agency
March 5, 2009
#61 bgduece said . . .It was a good read until the end.. Chris Simms, wtf where'd that name come from. Yah we should get some good receivers so that good veteran QB's would look at us like Chris Simms??? I had to re-read it. Chris Simms has 3 starts in the last 3 seasons in which he threw 1 td and 7 ints. Why would we care what he thinks. That just seemed like a really out of the blue and off topic name to use.
Plus I seem to remember Chris Simms saying he didn't want to come to Chicago because after talking to his own dad, they didn't think he could oust Orton as a starter and he wants to start. Not because he didn't like our receivers.March 5, 2009
#62 Idonije said . . .I want him on my team...he does not accept losing, and when a player of this cailber, who will not accept losing is in your locker room...Who has a probelm like that...Now T.O. has never called out anybody who did not have it coming...but I know I am dreaming, this franchise has accepted the fact that they are not an elite franchise or team, and that is sad...please replace Jerry Angelo, his inaction over the last two seasons, shows he is in over his head...What a dumb fuck
March 5, 2009
#63 The Ghost of Halas said . . .From profootballweekly
Although it might appear the Bears’ signing of little-known OL Frank Omiyale is a relative speck on this offseason’s free-agent radar screen, the consensus among team insiders is that the 26-year-old former Panther is a solid investment. We hear that especially would be the case if the team eventually manages to re-sign unrestricted free-agent OT John St. Clair, whose importance on the line has grown since veteran ORT John Tait let it be known that he was planning to retire. “If they don’t re-sign St. Clair, the line looks even worse than it did a year ago,” one daily team observer said. “But if they bring him back — and maybe get another tackle high in the draft — then they’d be looking pretty good because of the versatility and flexibility both St. Clair and Omiyale have to offer.”
Word is St. Clair, who turns 32 in July, hasn’t made many free-agent visits. His agent, Ben Dogra, also represents Dolphins ORT Vernon Carey, who signed a six-year, $42 million contract extension, including $15 million in guaranteed money. “My sense is the Bears wouldn’t pay even half that amount (for St. Clair),” the observer said. In the best-case scenario, we hear the Bears will re-sign St. Clair at a reasonable rate and make him the starting right tackle heading into training camp, with Omiyale initially battling holdovers Roberto Garza and Josh Beekman for the starting guard spots. Sources say the Bears were very impressed with the way Omiyale performed late last season for the Panthers and consider him a potential future starter at either guard or tackle with a solid upside.
March 5, 2009
#64 The Ghost of Halas said . . .Yeah, he might be locker room cancer, BUT
The only time T.O. has caused a problem is when there are other superstars on the offense...i.e. Steve Young, Donovan McNabb, Tony Romo, Jason Witten.
The closest thing to a superstar on the Bears' roster is Devin Hester...and he's not at all a superster wideout.
I think it's worth a shot. They can't get worse with T.O.
March 5, 2009
#65 Z said . . .I would like to clarify that I do not personally think of Romo as a superstar, but the media does. So...
March 5, 2009
#66 Z said . . .The New England Patriots signed free agent cornerback Shawn Springs. Springs also considered signing with Phildelphia. It is believed that Springs, who can play cornerback or safety, could challenge for a starting job.
The Patriots on Thursday also acquired wide receiver Greg Lewis from Philadelphia. New England will get Lewis, along with an undisclosed choice in the 2010 draft, in exchange for an undisclosed choice in the 2009 draft.
The Patriots also re-signed starting safety James Sanders, punter Chris Hanson and reserve linebacker Eric Alexander on Thursday.
The Patriots released linebacker Darrell Robertson, who spent part of last season on the practice squad.
Oh and I hate the Patriots. They are the team I cheer for the most to lose, right after every NFC team except our hibernating Bears.
March 5, 2009
#67 The Ghost of Halas said . . .Javon Walker is staying with the Oakland Raiders. Walker restructured his contract and will save Oakland $8 million in salary-cap room.
The Bucs have re-signed tight end Jerramy Stevens, safety Jermaine Phillips and receiver Cortez Hankton.
The Saints will release incumbent full back starter Mike Karney. He's been with the Saints since 2004 and was known for his blocking ability. But the Saints soured on Karney for some reason and they've been looking at free agents Heath Evans (New England) and Leonard Weaver (Seattle).
March 6, 2009
#68 Z said . . .Mike Karney is one of my favorite Fullbacks. I sure as hell hope a play is made on him. Unlike our current backs, he can catch, run, and block very very well.
March 6, 2009
#69 Z said . . .This is kinda interesting and a little amusing. If it keeps up we might win by default. So shhhh, don't wake Jerry up.
March 6, 2009
#70 badheadbearfan said . . .Here are some minor signings and some visit info but I am getting lazier and lazier.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation?tag=09%20free%20agency
March 6, 2009
#71 MassBear said . . .check out my blog on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA30jWW-Vx0March 6, 2009
#72 The Ghost of Halas said . . .Moron at the helm for the Bears...that's why it won't happen, but would be great for all the reasons above.
March 6, 2009
#73 Z said . . .George "One-play" McAfee died.
Is there anybody on here young enough to know who he was and how amazing of a runner he was for us during the dynasty years?
March 6, 2009
#74 O-Line wins games said . . .Never heard of him. Just read a little. Sounds like another tough, scrappy, honorable Bear. Giving up the prime of your career to serve and protect our country and still come back and make the Hall of Fame. Impressive.
http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/hof-mcafee.aspMarch 6, 2009
#75 zisk said . . .So, no Phillips and no Sharper...
We have Payne and Steltz as starters, and Manning as the nickel back cause he can't play safety. And no one after that.
If Steltz sucks or gets hurt, who are we going with Jerry... a practice squad player?
We were horrible against the pass last year, got rid of Mike Brown and JA does nothing.No QB, no WRs that's fine cause I expect that, but we have to draw the line somewhere.
Get a fucking safety, fill a huge hole on the defense, aren't you a defense guy Jerry?Can't we at least have pride in our defense anymore?
I guess not, here's looking forward to being ranked 30th against the pass for the second year in a row.March 6, 2009
#76 jay said . . .We should sign owens for a one year deal. It always takes him awhile before he starts bitching at everyone.
March 6, 2009
#77 BDG said . . .Roy Williams
March 6, 2009
#78 Babootycall said . . .Didn't realize Leanerd Weaver from the Seahawks was a FA. This would be a great complimentary back/ short yardage back to pick up and he has great hands. He's huge and fast, reminds me of McClain in
Baltimore.
Would also like Karney over McKieMarch 6, 2009
#79 House said . . .Don't get TO because he is a "locker room cancer"??? Come on. When you already have terminal "organizational cancer" that has spread from ownership to the GM to the head coach to some of the players what could we possibly lose? Seriously! What the fuck!! 30 Mill under the cap with holes at every other position and we've picked up a back up O-lineman. This has to be a sick joke. If I had 30 mill I'd happily pay it up to drop a nice deuce on JA's chest. Do something already cuz everyone knows its not going to happen through the draft with him at the helm.
March 6, 2009
#80 Phil from SATX said . . .No way I'd want to pay T.O. to play for the Bears--and I was pretty luke warm on J.A.'s decision to drop Tank and Ced because of off the field issues--although they did stupid shit, they didn't then go make a ton of public comments on it and clog up the sports news cycle. I also don't think the Bears are going to do a better job with T.O. than Dallas, who successfully managed to keep our castaway, Tank, from shooting anyone, or being around anyone who is shot. I think Philadelphia's on the field failure in T.O.'s last year there can be laid squarely at his feet. His attitude sucks, and worse, he seems to be uninhibited even at the prospect of by being kicked off his team--I don't think T.O. could control himself if he wanted to. Oh yeah, and having all the headlines on the team revolve around T.O.'s latest tantrums is not the kind of Bears season I'd ever look forward to.
So count me out on that.
Separately, I'm curious to know if anyone can identify a FA signing that, for the price the person was signed, is at least a decent deal from the team's point of view and would have measurably improved the Bears? So, if you think Haynesworth is worth the money he got (which also means you think years down the road Washington won't be regretting this heft package), say so.
I can think of maybe 2 players that fit the bill (other than Omiyale) and am not so concerned that J.A. has so far sat on his hands.
March 6, 2009
#81 BearDown1982 said . . .Note the TX in my name. Terrell Owens may be the all-time worst teammate in NFL history. He is, quite simply, the anti-Bear. Is he great? Well he used to be, and probably still can be considered that. Is he many times better than anything we have? Sure. But you Bear fans would really want to sell your soul to the devil to take on the likes of TO?
Even Jerry Jones, the sleaze jockey and lover of all things controversial, who chooses people without regard to character, found TO too sleazy for him. That doesn't say enough to you?
Roy Williams may be a different story, at strong safety. But probably not.
Does anyone have any interest in re-signing Tank, now that he rehabilitated himself in Dallas? Unfortunately, he also rehabilitated himself into a not-great lineman. But he couldn't wait to get off that team. Even Tank Johnson found it dysfunctional.
Love the line about "forgot to turn the ringer on."
Would do cartwheels (dangerous for me) if I heard the Bears signed a FA fullback.
And to those who say no receiver would want to come here, I counter with - there has never been a more open job to catch ALL of the balls with a team. You'll have tons of opportunities. Most other teams have several great receivers. You'll be the only one. I know that that means you'll be in double coverage, but still... you'll be #1! I think FAs would come - maybe not the best ones, but Chicago is a great and storied franchise. As if I had to tell you that.
March 6, 2009
#82 tommydabearfan said . . .So, what exactly is the plan for free saefty next season? I'm doubting that we are going to pick up a free agent at this point.
I guess that means we will be testing our luck in the draft or throwing DManning back out there? No way Steltz can be expected to be a free safety, right?
March 6, 2009
#83 Phil from SATX said . . .Thank you! Someone with common sense.TO to the Bears= Wr problems gone,and a dynamic offense...Who you gonna double TO or Hester?TO is going to have something to prove- That it wasn't him all along,And if you look at his history...He has talked it and walked it.The Bears need someone who's going to DEMAND the ball ,and Show the Heart few have nowadays.
March 6, 2009
#84 johnnyelpaso said . . .TO doesn't have heart, he has a bottomless well of ego and selfishness. Whether it's going good or going bad, TO will eff up everything. There are two teams TO could go to - the Raiders, who will take anyone, or the Patriots, who could at least imagine they could control him. Could be dangerous for everybody if he goes there, but then again, Patriots are dangerous anyway and TO could just be the Trojan horse that gets wheeled in and destroys everything.
All I can say is, if you want TO you aren't anywhere near the Dallas media market - meaning you just don't know. True Dallas fans, who want to win above all else, are rejoicing today. THAT should say enough to you.
March 6, 2009
#85 Albert in Tucson said . . .Tommydabearfan, i totally agree with you about TO....I personally dont like the guys attitude....but hes a winner and he always wants the ball......we need some one whos got balls and wants the ball thrown to him....i live in texas and cowboy games are always televised and orton would be a perfect fit in getting him the ball.. TO's more productive on the slants and 10 to 15 yds outs....im pretty sure that orton would have no problem in getting him the ball..as i see it if you can talk the talk then walk the walk and he does both...hes our missing link..a little day dreaming but imagine TO on one side Devin on the other, olsen and Forte. we would be superbowl bound.....
March 6, 2009
#86 O-Line wins games said . . .Roy Williams?!?! Puh-LEASE! You must be attending parties with Michael Phelps.
Safety Roy Williams was NEVER as good as his reputation and he's been living on his rep for years. Feel free to not quote me "Pro-bowl" stats. Too many Pro-bowl selections have been laughable for years, punctuated this year by Brett Favre's selection in the AFC. No doubt a reward for leading the league, by far, in interceptions as well as turning cthe once 7-3 Jets into playoff spectators. Williams' "coverage skills" are, and always have been, comparable to those of Adam Archuleta and aside from not being able to cover your Aunt Matilda in her walker, Williams now routinely gets his ass run over.As for T.O. , BGDeuce. "He doesn't accept losing"? Close, but what you left off was he doesn't accept losing touches. Win a game with only 2 catches for 12 yards for T.O. and he starts yakking at the OC and the QB.
He blew up the 49ers, he blew up the Eagles and he just blew up the Cowboys. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 3 times and you must be Jerry Jones. Fool me 4 times? My bet is you're Dan Snyder. Sign T.O? He would fit right in with the Bear wideouts since he drops as many passes as anybody in the league. You'd be better off tossing a live grenade into the locker room. It would do less damage.March 6, 2009
#87 jeff said . . .85- Good post Albert, you are right on the money with Roy Williams, very funny stuff.
March 6, 2009
#88 Bears fan stuck in AZ said . . .i think my thoughts on roy williams are well-documented. i think he's arguably the worst safety in football.
March 6, 2009
#89 zisk said . . .As much as I like T.O. going to Da Bears, it wont happen. He wants to be on a contender, not another "scape goat" for why the team doesnt win a playoff game. Dallas Cowboys will fall on their face. ROmo is okay, but he was good with T.O., with out him, he's a QB from Eastern Ill.
March 6, 2009
#90 zisk said . . .Kevin jones was resigned. Now can we give him a couple carries. I like forte as much as the next guy but all that running has to be tiring.
March 6, 2009
#91 And Brown said . . .http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/06/kevin-jones-stays-with-bears/
Now get cracking on st. clair and lloyd
March 7, 2009
#92 Z said . . .or some Safety
March 7, 2009
#93 enderwiggin said . . .Well I like the Jones signing. I have heard that you don't really have much chance of being at full strength after a surgery like that until the 2nd year. If he can return even close to form like he was before the injury he should be a more than acceptable #2.
March 7, 2009
#94 enderwiggin said . . .Its been about a year that I've been coming to this site everyday. Its actually a little spooky, the very first post I read of Jeffs was "Why I like Chad Johnson(and i'm ok if you don't)". No offence Jeff, i agree with 90% of what you say. But i thought the same thing about #65 as i do TO.. No thanks!
That being said I am very happy to be able to visit the blog everyday to read Bear fans rant. Jeff, Phill, Rev. thanks guys and hears to a much better year.March 7, 2009
#95 johnnyelpaso said . . .jeez, #85 is what i meat.. way too much alcohol this evening
March 7, 2009
#96 Safeties! We don't need no stinking Safeties! said . . .tommydabearfan, i also agree with you on the TO situation. he would make our team much better......maybe him calling out ron turner and babich in the media will make JA in firing the.2 cordinators.....bear fans if you want to blame anyone, blame ron turner and babich.......these 2 cordinators are bringing this team down...... adding a proven reciever would only improve this team.
March 7, 2009
#97 Z said . . .Safety Sean Jones signed a one-year, $3 million free-agent contract with the Philadelphia Eagles on Friday, helping fill the void created by Brian Dawkins' departure.
A second-round pick by Cleveland in 2004, Jones played five seasons with the Browns. He was mostly used as a strong safety, but his playmaking skills make him a potential replacement for Dawkins at free safety.
Jones ranks third among safeties behind Baltimore's Ed Reed and St. Louis' Oshiomogho Atogwe with 14 interceptions since 2006. He had four picks in Cleveland's final six games last season.
March 7, 2009
#98 Wars And Rumors Of Wars said . . .The Packers will not get FA Safety Mike Adams. Adams returned to Cleveland and signed a three-year contract.
But the Packers (who are already good at Safety) did sign free agent Anthony Smith.
Minnesota re-signed linebacker/special teams ace Heath Farwell to a three-year contract worth about $8 million.
Detroit signed free agent offensive lineman Daniel Loper to a one-year contract.
The Seahawks' ability to bring back Ray Willis on a two-year deal significantly upgrades their depth at two and possibly three positions on the offensive line.
The Dallas Cowboys have signed one of the best defensive linemen available in free agency, Igor Olshansky. Oshansky agreed to a four-year, $18 million contact with Dallas that includes $8 million in guarantees.
The Kansas City Chiefs signed one of their more important free agents, safety Jon McGraw. The Chiefs also signed linebacker Darrell Robertson.
March 7, 2009
#99 jdawg said . . .The leak that Jerry Angelo isn't being allowed to do all the deals he wants to makes this deal unlikely. But these are the benefits:
1. With all the teams waiting for Holt, Owens will be cheaper
2. Orton's strength is the short throws, by getting Owens, not only do you have a guy who thrives in the short game and if someone else starts, Owens also has great open field speed
3. By signing Owens, a safety and a pass rusher can be your first two picks and you can get Patrick Turner from USC to pair up with Owens which gives you a third red zone target
4. Owens constantly occupies one of the safeties which means big things for all three Bears tight ends
5. If he gets in a tantrum in the locker room or the sideline, Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman will put him in his place
6. Terrell Owens is super-competitive and lively which could balance well with Lovie
7. You won't have to face him: he did set a record against the Bears for receptions in a game and apparently the main team that might sign him is the 49ers who the Bears face this year
The Cowboys will be fine without him as they have loads of talent on offense and are bringing in some good defensive players (Olshansky, Brooking, Stewart).
March 7, 2009
#100 Z said . . .no no no -- unless, like I said earlier, TO goes to the shooting range with Olin.
March 7, 2009
#101 Idonije said . . .I am starting to agree with those that are saying we couldn't handle him. Sorry to bring it up but if we couldn't handle TJ and Benson after going to the SB and had to trade the better one, how the hell are they going to handle TO?
Some Eagles fan said that McNabb wants TO back. No NFC.
Bulls are the #8 seed.
Selection Sunday tomorrow. How many brackets will you be filling out this year?
Come on JA. Crawl before you walk. I get it. Take another baby step. You can do it.
March 7, 2009
#102 Z said . . .Z if you are referring to NCAA March Madness, then I don't believe the selection show is tomorrow.
March 7, 2009
#103 Z said . . .Oh oops. I was hearing all this hype about it. Next week? Do they play all the conference tournaments 1st? That would make sense huh. Yeah that's right. Some teams get automatic bids for winning their Conf. Tournament. Should be another graet one. A lot of teams that have a good shot.
March 7, 2009
#104 Z said . . .Great
March 7, 2009
#105 Nick said . . .TO only had 2 games over 100 yards last season
March 7, 2009
I'm glad we didn't get him. Buffalo can have him!!!
March 12, 2009
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